Lol getting rewarded for puttong time into the grind you right should never be allowed ban them right away so that this dude can get rank 14 solo without effort
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Yeah seriously, I want to do BGs to rank up but thereâs no point right now since the progress will be reset.
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Are you mental?
R14 spergs were keeping higher ranks as hostage. It is a stupid easy manipulated system when everything was obvious how the ranking worked. Besides⊠the ranking system is not how good you are but how many you played.
I heard even stories that ppl got msged on discord with threatening txt lol or being banned on the server.
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Wrong brev. R14s didnt âhold it hostageâ; they had a system in place on whos next. jus cuz you wanted to skip the line ddoesnt mean it was held hostage.
also, RP gain is relative to everyone else on your faction. so its only grindy if the rest of the server is being sweaty and breaking brackets, so thatâs a player-created issue.
if u want ez epics, theres literally 2 versions of the game that caters to that
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And you really think if people donât like some one else they wonât let them get R14? It happens because Iâve seen it. So you are wrong.
Im sure its happened but no itâs not. You gotta remember that if one person is holding r14 hostage for one person, hes also holding it hostage for the rest of the server. And thereâs no way a ranking team will tolerate that. The hostage holder has to waste not only his time , but at least 9 other peoples time
lmao its like saying glads are holding the 2200 arena weapon hostage. No, theyâre jus better than u
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You donât know how the ranks work do you? Thatâs not how the brackets work.
Nobody who was rank 14 kept grinding br1 to hold the position hostageâŠ.
Youâre making stuff up.
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No i dont think u do homie. if 1 person is holding bracket 1 hostage, no one else can get bracket 1 (unless they coordinate clsoe enough to also get bracket 1. And that person is likely alrdy on ur ranking team.)
That or if the server is actually big enough ie. whitemane to have multiple bracket 1s
People will start looking at mr. hostage holder a certain way esp since ur going to have to âcreateâ a new slot by lvling up level 15 alts or w,e
as homie above said, ur prob making stuff up. since ur character is on whitemane, whoâre u talking about specifically?
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Nobody is holding br1 hostage bro. Youâre making stuff up. It has never happened and you have zero proof of it happening
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Yo make sure you pvp chads jump on and pvp with devs to test out the new classic soloQ rated BGs and honor currency system (or w/e it may be!).
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fr hopefully blizz changes their minds and scraps these changes once we test it.
EZ soloable epics gonna kill off any pre AQ 40 content
Idea might be good for a SoM 2 or a âclassic +â tpye of server tho. Fresh characters, fresh system, and any fallout from these changes are contained in that server type
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Braindead take
Tier 1 and 2 gear would still be faster and easier to obtain, and is bis for some classes even in naxx, and would assist you in grinding pvp gear in the first place.
Not to mention if all you do is get pvp gear youâre going to be missing: belt, bracers, cloak, neck, rings. Trinkets, you knowâŠliterally half of your gear slots that account for a ton of your characters power.
Also consider the fact that there are many players who dont like pvp at all and would not be interested in farming for pvp gear, AND many classes pvp gear is terribly itemized for pve content, especially healers.
This whole âit will kill pre AQ contentâ argument is nonsense
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âKillâ isnt meant to be taken literally lmao. itll reduce the demand for a lot of the gear and content. yes things like belts and trinkets why would u ned to run ZG or Aq 20 when the pvp gear offers something much better. no need to run onyxia for rogue warrior weapons when u can jus get it from the vendor!
is it really a good change if it trivializes half the gear in half the raids, let alone the 5 and 10 mans? kek
the pvp grind is meant to take longer because its easier logistically. organizing a 10 man vs organizing a 40 man. Consumables rarely used in most pvp games, while consumables are almost used in every 40 man encounter
I agree with the overall sentiment that trivializing the acquisition of powerful gear would degrade the Classic experience. I donât think that is their design intent going forward. Iâm going to be cautiously optimistic until more information is available.
I disagree with the blanket #NoChanges stance, since it never had a leg to stand on in the first place.
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If the coming changes make pvp gear inordinately easier to obtain then yeah, sure. I would remind you that the pvp grind - as is - already diminishes the availability of some players from participation in other activities (âsorry canât make it to that raid/dungeon iâm grinding AV/AB/WSG rep/honor etcâ). This is a crapshoot but maybe the Classic Team has something really innovative to remedy this common pain-point.
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Fr, the conspiracy of âthey wanna kill off classic to make u buy dragonflightâ is dumb cuz classic players will never play retail lol.
this is only my very wild guess, but my reason blizz is probably doing this is likely from shortsightedness (changes that made SoM and wotlk worse) and the dev team having to show some upper management what theyâre doing (and stubborness).
If the devs working on classic product lines didnât have to do anything, theyâd either be out of a job or theyâd have to work on harder projects like actually fixing other parts of the game (like wotlk. I heard wotlk arena is fubarâd cuz of the updated ulduar pve epics)
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Another braindead take.
The logistics of needing to allocate 12+ hours a day every single day for like 2 months straight with no breaks allowed in that 2 month period is FAR more difficult and more out of reach than the logistics of organizing 20-40 people to be on for 1-3 hours a week at a predetermined time to do a raid.
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lool that hasnt been like that since vanilla.
bro i played with you on whitemane so even on the sweatiest server it wasnt that hard. the chinese server where people actually paid gold and even real money to get r14
Bracket 1 cap was 700K honor. an actual no lifer can do that in 3 days, and a normal player can do that in 5 days with a FT job. Still even had time to get my BWL and Aq 40 lockouts in. Brackets went even lower once naxx came out when r14 gear wasnt top dog no more
again, the only reason why it took 12 hrs every day in 2005 was because of people breaking brackets and not understanding how it worked (ie. âuhhh mor honor = mpre RP?â)
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I just got a warlock to lvl 60 less than 2 weeks ago, all my warlocks gear is better than the blue pvp set already, and half of it is better or roughly equal to the rank 13 gear and i also have good gear in slots pvp cant give me
Under the current pvp system the most i could possibly have obtained in this time period is like the blue gloves and boots, by the time the minimum time required to get rank 14 goes by if i had no lifed pvp the whole time im gonna be far past the point of needing warlord gear if i just continue to raid instead.
The time needed to get pvp gear is extremely disproportionate compared to the time it takes to get pve gear, and the pvp gear is almost all outclassed by pve gear for both pve content and pvp.
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