Somehow people seem very confused how WoW evolved with its approach to gear. The gear is far easier now but the fights are light years more complicated then Classic.
I think people are in for a massive shock when they realize after you finally get passed the gear check just how simplistic the raids were in Classic. I mean the Youtube video guides are there guys.
Modern WoW took an approach that gear should not be a factor in entering a raid…i.e go see Gear Score in Wrath. This MMO dramatically changed after TBC and especially into Cata.
After TBC the dev team took an approach that gear should not be the driving factor which is how we got Wrath. Gear used to in some peoples mind equal skill but that is not even remotely accurate.
It meant you got lucky drops and had atleast 15 competent people in a raid out of 40. Also you hit the lottery and rolled a class that let you dps, tank or heal as you were more often then not pigeonholed into a role in a raid.
Blizzards failure in retail has been the carrot. After you made gear not the driving factor for raiding it was not replaced with another system. It was assumed that complicated fights would be very rewarding but removing that grind for gear turned a lot of older players off.
Going by what I see in Classic hype train at the moment old people prefer far more simple fights but harder to obtain gear. I think that is why people like Asmongold like Classic. He is a pretty trash raider who is very often carried by people who are far better at WoW then he is.
My best guess to solve the current issue with WoW and this impossible standard Classic players are setting is to let the obvious play out. Let even the WORST BFA player get to end and realize just how stupid easy Classic fights are next to something in BFA.
That is all you can do. Once people realize how simple and slow Classic is I think there will be more appreciation that people are actually asked to be accountable in BFA.
I can’t wait for classic so people will have to actually earn gear instead of heroic ilvl welfare being thrown at you for playing memory and shooting crabs.
I do not want to see the gear wall come back up in favor of more simple raids. Earn gear in Classic is get lucky out of 40 people with 2 or 3 drops in a raid.
I like more simple 40 man raids because it means raids are more accessible and there’s more people to play them with. It’s harder for people to be elitist about raids when they need more warm bodies and it’s not that difficult to learn the mechanics anyway.
Everyone I know who played in Vanilla said that outside of the few high end guilds, most guilds were just about needing to fill with more warm bodies, because you need 40 people. There were a lot more people raiding with their friends and family in Vanilla because every guild had spots to fill.
Again we won’t know until Classic is released. This will be my response until it is live. I hope 8.2 will do well I’ve seen some responses saying they might return to WoW for this. It would be nice for Blizzard to gain some subs back.
Seriously. I don’t know how many times I’ve had people tell me “you won’t enjoy Classic, it takes longer to kill things, you die a lot, the mana regen sucks, etc. People are going to hate it”.
I’m in the beta, all of those things are true, and yet I’m enjoying it infinitely more than BfA. And for the record I never played Vanilla, so it’s not a nostalgia thing, either. It’s just genuinely a better game, I never want to go back to current WoW unless they ever make changes to make it better, because there is no reason to now that I have Classic and I actually enjoy playing WoW again.
No. They have been making changes to the game to attempt to revert back to “classic ideals” since wod, when they first tried to remove flight. Highly unpopular changes to the game that are responsible for most of the playerbase leaving since then can arguably be attributed to this attempt to go back and “fix” the game to return it to where it would be now if it hadn’t taken a wrong turn in BC and started catering to casuals, rather than turning it hardcore.
You enjoy Classic until end game then reality sets in of how bad the gold sinks are, how little choice you actually have and just how futile certain classes are.
People are enjoying Classic Beta for the same reason people enjoy twinking. You have the illusion of choice and noone is screaming at you about how trash your build is.
At end game when Warriors are one shotting people, rogue are chain stunning you to death and Mages are lol kiting you that is when the hate will come.
I played classic when it wasn’t classic. Yes, it was fun…but it was also about the only game like it …so a lot of it is pure nostalgia. I think a lot of people are going to be shocked at how bare bones it is. I have no intention of playing it again. I hope it does well, because I don’t want them to lose money, That could only hurt all their games .Actually, I am waiting for the next expansion in hope they’ve learned some things from the colossal failure this one turned out to be. In the meantime I am enjoying exploring other games.
Here’s the thing, people keep repeatedly telling me that the difficulty and annoyances are going to make me hate the game, and so far it’s done the complete opposite. It’s made me enjoy the game more.
So I kind of find that hard to believe, but we’ll see, I guess.