I don’t know what it takes to see that DH, Rogue and Warlock are going absolutely nuts and need adjusting. DH doing double the damage of the next DPS in some M+. Even with bad players that’s not normal.
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More changes to come December 5th!
Mages are in a dire need of aura buffs. Our raid performance is atrocious. Please fix.
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Rogue nerfs when???
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praying for a psychic link tuneup now that our aoe damage outside of it is a lot lower this season, even just an extra 5-10% on it would make a world of difference in m+, while also giving us a somewhat more specialized council damage profile
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I’m not usually one to doom and gloom here but, it honestly feels like they just forgot Wind Walker exists.
The spec is down bad and the talent trees are real bad. Fae Line Stomp is atrocious, the left side of the tree with the old Necrolord talent is just bad and sucks.
The class tree using a statue you place that does damage is just outrageously bad. I’m really hoping we here something real soon about a complete rework.
Not just a “reshuffling of talents”. Wind Walker needs a REDESIGN. New abilities that makes sense. Throw a bunch of stuff out.
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Disc and MW are in great spots, actually, most if not all the healers are doing well in lots of areas. These 2 just happen to be better, but they dont need nerfs lol
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See, as a long time shadow main, I dont need to be the top dps. But if im not, i better have utility. Not every spec should be omgroflbbq dmg or be the same. Each should have merits and negatives.
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i’d be satisfied as mid pack for M+ and raids if the outliers on the top end weren’t so much higher that even midpack feels like bottom tier comparitively
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I´m just gonna laugh cause is the only way to keep my sanity xD, but please balance team… LEAVE DRUGS
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I was obviously being dramatic but:
if you think MW is in a good spot because the raid team designed an entire raid that plays to it’s niche strengths and just requires a lot of HPS, and because the other 2 specs are so bad relative to their role that MW becomes the most efficient way to bring Mystic Touch IDK what to tell you. If MW was truly a meta spec we’d have seen 2 MW and not 2 priests in the RWF. Once again the monk spec being brought is just the spec that is the least bad at it’s role. Take Mystic Touch out of the game and I’m pretty sure we would have seen a 3rd priest (2nd disc) over a MW.
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You do realize that weeks into an expansion starts to gap the player base quickly. The bottom classes don’t get into higher keys and raids and miss out on the learning experiences early on. Then as the other classes on top flood with better gear because they are top picks for progression, they move on to higher content leaving the bottom classes to start way behind. Weeks and weeks of balancing should come faster with much of the player base racing to the top.
Little % buffs and nerfs could happen more quickly. Especially when you see some classes pull double the dps of others with skill levels near the same.
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Ya, I saw more Havoc in keys on the first day of patch then I saw in the previous 4 months.
And that’s kind of a tell. And that they were suddenly doing 40-100% more damage than the rest of the group, mostly without having any tier gear, that was another.
The logs are showing BM to be as far out of balance as Havoc but I haven’t seen them absolutely destroying like Havoc. Maybe 20-50% ahead of the pack. But that might be the key levels people were doing the first few days favoring Havoc’s CD’s
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This is actually real and true. I don’t know if i’ve ever seen it this bad before with one spec being so broken.
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Havoc is a total meme in PvP right now too. It’s a little depressing how easily they can just delete people with 400k crits.
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I don’t want MW to be meta, that just means it will get nerfed so bad it’ll be even worse than it has been the past several years. I don’t care about whether or not it was brought to RWF, or why. I play the spec bc that’s what I love, even when it has to work 100x harder than other healers for the same goal. I do think they are in a good spot (not great) right now but that doesn’t have anything to do with the current raid. There is more work to be done with it but it wouldn’t be world ending if they have to wait a little while.
The whole idea that things will suddenly come into balance in the end is a desperate “Don’t nerf me” cope.
It could happen and of course things do change a little. But usually the same things that cause the imbalances cause them to scale out of balance even quicker.
Survival hunter in 9.3.
Never played survival but had a barely geared BM. Went and bought a melee weapon for it and was out damaging my main in a couple of keys with no idea what I was doing. And they stuck their heads in the sand on that one for the whole tier.
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lolol that’s a good point, I forgot about that. It was just as bad.
A lot of people didn’t play SV though because why would you. Havoc is a very easy spec to play.
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Leveling this one up now. Probably harder than survival and it seems to have much more prescribed rotation than I remember it having in BfA.
Really don’t like it though, Ground targets and movement abilities in the rotation.
Ground targets just don’t work well with rapid dance dance and mouse turning. Where’s my pointer again? oh Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over there. And movement abilities? that happen without using Movement keys?
Really more and more I’m so glad I quit WW monk in SL…
Year after year of mistreatment to the spec I loved, it feels good that I gave up on it.
Kudos to those still riding it out… But until they get a better dedicated team for monk I’m just keeping him on the shelf