Class Tuning Incoming - November 28

lolwat? clearly you don’t. Your own forums, wowlogs, reddit, etc. are screaming for changes.

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Affliction ST should be among the highest ST/cleave specs in the game, it has massive ramp up and basically no burst.

Demo wouldn’t be so bad if it didn’t have hideously strong burst aoe and ST burst on top of being a top tier sustained ST DPS spec.

Same goes for assassination, the ST niche is fine, but the burst AOE on top is not. Havoc has burst AOE and ST but both now stay sustained after the burst.

Burst classes should never match the sustained DPS of ramp classes.

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There are already more parses for DH and BM on warcraftlogs than any other class (for M+) by a good margin.

i don’t know about minimal effort, havoc opener has like 15 steps

forgot to mention, still dashing and backflipping out of position for damage lol

Odd. Max did a tier list with some of the top players of each class/spec and most of the really bad specs where called out two weeks ago.

I mean most of the people at Blizzard probably never heard of Max so that is probably part of the problem. Also probably don’t have access to reddit, discord, raiderio, warcraft logs or the official forums either so that can’t be helping.

BTW this post is insulting

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Class balance started really really good early DF. And has taken a nose dive towards the end. Really telling how the war within might turn out…

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In patchwerk single target / lusted execute maybe. In ST raid encounters with movement it’s still going to be pretty terrible, and AoE / dungeon damage isn’t anywhere close. The best SPs in the world are nearer to tanks than their other DPS in keys.

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I’m not defending their bad launches, but they get more data in about 6 hours of a live patch than the entire 6-8 week PTR.

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You don’t need that amount of data. The people doing PTR are usually the top raiders, so their data is what matters anyways.

The state of Havoc and BM was plain as day to see in PTR. It’s not a surprise.

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Par for the course for the WoW playerbase.

Fotm rerolling is how a large amount of people play the game, and it’s been happening for over a decade.

The faster and easier it is to level and gear a new toon the more it happens as well.

It’s fun to go back through old raid WCL data and old season raider.io data and just watch MASSIVE class/spec representation swings from season to season.

Thats to the old set my man

To what degree exactly?

I get the value of burst damage and a faster ramp up, what percentage are we talking about here?

Burst class does 100K DPS over the course of a boss encounter what should affliction be doing?

DH’s, both Veng and Havoc are well over performing

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Our ST Damage isn’t awful, 5% is nice. We legitimately need a bump to Psychic Link by 50-100%, that will fix most of our issues. We are unplayable in M+ Atm.

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salty people mad BM didnt get nerfed. lmao

drink water my friends.

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Im doing ok in m+, not horrible, but not great either. But i agree psychic link needs buffing for sure. We will see if we get any more buffs the 5th.

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Top raiders sandbag their specs all the time so they aren’t reliable.

Many of us don’t care for PVE at all, so it makes a huge difference

5-10% delta. Even that is small as the value of burst cannot be overstated. In M+ eliminating a dangerous set off adds quickly is invaluable and a massibe group mitigation tool. In raids, any fight with adds that need to be taken care of quickly, which is a good portion of this tier, should yield a utility tax.

There is simply no reward for ramp up classes whatsoever in the current paradigm.

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All three Rogue Specs are over performing.

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