Class Tuning Incoming -- December 13

[Reynahrd-area-52]

Even with the key level changes, mythic raiding will still be more challenging. The problem is Blizz has decided to tell a bunch of players that they don’t really deserve the level of gear that they’ve been getting for 2 expansions. What I’m wondering if whether those players will be content with the lower level gear or if they’ll get mad and stop playing.

[Angrychair-aegwynn]

The number of tanks crying about this is absolutely hilarious.

Oh noes; you might not be able to pull the entire dungeon by yourself while watching everyone else die and making their experience at the very beginning of an xpac miserable.

The horror. Whatever will we do?

(Sincerely, a tank.)

Edit: Tbf, Monks didn’t deserve to get hit, though.

[Weathervane-windrunner (Weathervane)]

was trying to pick BrM or WW for leveling my monk, this whole fiasco settled it for me! thank you all (also: buff BrM!)

it is lovely that pvp can be nerfed separately from pve— would it do anything for the playerbase to have things balanced instance vs non-instance (or grouped vs non-grouped)? or would that just be too much/a big pita? idk just trying to come up with ways we can all be happy with our specs…

[Oka-shattered-hand]

RIP Brewmaster, we hardly played ye.

[Stronghold-kargath]

@Bullëtproof-zuljin

When tanks aren’t having fun, everyone else gets long queues and long dungeons.

Which helps pad those time played metrics…

[Çorvyn-area-52]

@Kaivax

While we’re thrilled that players are enjoying playing tanks in Dragonflight and want the role to be healthy

This statement alone shows us how disconnected Blizzard really is from the majority of its playerbase.

[Bupsy-tichondrius]

Imagine being you, telling a massive, established, experienced company how to do their jobs, lol.

So much whining in this game.

[Rads-dathremar]

@Odinbrew-tichondrius

They dont want their job (staying alive) to be in someone else’s hands.

Then why have healers at all?
Its been that way since the beginning and all those years/tanks managed to cope just fine.

[Bearz-hellscream]

Garbage move.

[Biggiesmalls-bonechewer]

More damage to us? Good. Keeps it interesting. I never had to touch a def cd before now.

Really separates the men from the boys.

[Donerick-stormrage]

@Kaivax

Warlock

• Fel Synergy now causes Soul Leech to heal you for 15% of the absorption it grants (was 25%).
• Soul Leech now grants shields up to 5% of maximum health (was 10%).
• Demon Skin now increases Soul Leech’s absorption up to 10% of maximum health (was 15%).

You guys need to do something about Soul Tap for affliction after these nerfs go live.

Let me start off with that I am no way upset about Warlock durability being lowered because they were too tanky but these changes to soul leech and the previous change has completely guttered one of our talents into borderline unusable status.

You compensated Warriors but did nothing for Affliction but made a talent a dps loss to take.

Please either reduce Soul Taps cost to 3% or turn it into a charge based ability with a cd or something because the state of this talent is in now prior to these nerfs abysmal.

On top of Affliction pretty much losing their only way to generate soul shards you hard nerf Soulburn the same day because one spec was exploiting it. A talent losing a ton fluidity across the board because a single spec was breaking it is unacceptable.

[Brewa-hyjal]

If Prot Warriors are overpowered, then nerf Prot Warriors and leave weak tank(s) alone.

Instead, they gave Prot Warriors the smallest nerf of the six.

It’s really unbelievable that they were that stupid.

[Nicholasfury-dalaran]

@Naethrorne-khazgoroth

You guys literally see fun and destroy it

Fun for the guardian druids was not fun for everyone else.

[Rekt-nazjatar]

Or, hear me out, we work on balancing the dps as well. I mean if you’re going to nerf me tank, there are serious, and I mean serious dps issues that need resolved. You have classes that have 3 dps specs that cannot even touch classes that have alternate role specs. If you have a monk or DH you don’t even need the other 2 dps, they just get in the way.

Did a leather/mail group farm run last night our longest encounter was 34 seconds, we took a hunter friend. He cheered from the sidelines, talk about a worthless class atm.

[Nicholasfury-dalaran]

Any chance we could keep these tuning passes coming every 2 weeks?

[Orthane-shandris]

@Kaivax

We’re adjusting the damage reduction passives on all of the tanks, effectively increasing the damage tanks take by 10%. We think tanks will still feel powerful after this change, and it will result in a more balanced gameplay experience for all players.

But… why? There’s literally no point to this change.

Oh man tanks actually feel good to play and now there’s plenty of tanks even in pugs?!?!?! QUICK NERF THEM NOW!!!

[Orthane-shandris]

@Kaivax

Fury

• Gushing Wound damage and healing reduced by 10%.
• Bloodthirst damage increased by 1%.
• Bloodbath damage increased by 1%

Lol what even is this change? Who in the world is making these changes?

[Trollmonk-greymane]

Really? Have you actually played Brewmaster? This is totally unwarranted, I really like Brewmaster and you are making it increasingly hard to actually play, 10% may not be life or death for the other tanks but for a Brewmaster? I’ll be dropping dead more then I was for sure, I can think of plenty of times in the last couple days of play that this nerf would have killed me.

[Amamonk-illidan]

@Kaivax

We’ve been taking a long look at Tank survivability as we prepare for the beginning of Dragonflight Season 1. In general, we’ve found that the new talent trees have introduced a lot of power across all classes and specializations. Talents that were once exclusive through systems like the Talent Rows, Legendaries, or Covenants can now be equipped at the same time. Through our recent testing, we’ve determined that the damage done to tanks needs to be increased. While we’re thrilled that players are enjoying playing tanks in Dragonflight and want the role to be healthy, there are some negative effects that can come from tanks being too strong, that we want to avoid. We want healers to play a key role in keeping tanks alive, and tanks shouldn’t be able to easily solo large portions of encounters after the rest of their group have died.

We’re adjusting the damage reduction passives on all of the tanks, effectively increasing the damage tanks take by 10%. We think tanks will still feel powerful after this change, and it will result in a more balanced gameplay experience for all players.

Horrible change you just killed tanks in wow. FU

[Blahblahx-azuresong]

@Brewa-hyjal

Instead, they gave Prot Warriors the smallest nerf of the six.

How is 10% damage reduction to prot warrior a small nerf? It’s the same % for all tanks that got nerfed. Are you trying to state that prot warrior isn’t going to be using defensive stance in mythic+/raids. Prot warriors won’t turn off defensive stance and lose out on the additional 15% dmg reduction in mid to high end game content lol.