Class Tuning Incoming – May 9

Feral

Rampant Ferocity now deals 30% of damage dealt by Ferocious Bite to nearby enemies (was 35%).
Tear Open Wounds now deals 50% of Rip damage it consumes (was 60%).

…but why though? Feral is already worse at AOE than boomkin and many other specs at most appreciable levels. This not considering that Feral’s AOE is taking a hit by changing to our new 4pc, which does significantly less in AOE than the current T29 tier does.

A baffling change considering the landscape of AOE classes at the moment and Feral’s overall performance.

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You keep spelling Ret wrong when nerfing this class. It’s “Ret” not “Holy.”

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Oh yeah just buff the highest performing melee spec in M+ with the most mongoloid rotation even further. The ppl in charge of tunning are retarded.

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Why make M+ tuning DAYS before raid prog on talents that have major downsides in raid? This needs further adjustments with it, please.

  • Losing 4% AOE just by going from T29 → T30 tier set.

  • Taste for Blood was behind as an AOE/M+ talent option and this kills it, removing solid choice in the middle section - AND streamlining choice in other sections now that IW is a lock-in. This is really really so bad.

  • This also hurts Convoke M+ / as a burst AOE option, where it was already worse, and likely kills that entirely as a niche choice.

  • Rampant Ferocity is such a hard talent to pick now in raid now because the middle section is stacked with strong ST talents. It was only pickable before partly because Sudden Ambush was incredibly weak (e.g. the talent would only do around 3%~ on Rasz, but SA was not even 2% - now SA is much higher in 10.1).

  • Target capping Apex proc to 8 would have been better than an RF nerf as at least it doesn’t affect raid.

  • This spec still loses so much ST speccing into AOE.

  • Our AOE was still worse than specs like Balance?? Even on stacked mobs.

  • How do you expect us to AOE all these spread add targets in the raid? Multiple bosses have adds like this, and this is no Starfall remember, in fact Rampant Ferocity requires such a ridiculously tight stack that nerfing it before raid is very poorly thought out.

  • What is the Feral niche among the Druid specs if you aren’t going to buff single target with this? Even with the aura buff we are falling behind middle of the pack – without being able to AOE at all. This spec is utterly useless when adds come into the mix because you give up all your single target by spending 7 points to AOE well.

Feral Frenzy, LI, Shred are all there that can be buffed too you know without affecting AOE. Would have been nice to see it alongside this nerf at the very least (buffing those would also help Convoke in AOE). Or buffing the tier set to not be trash on AOE?

Blizz always wanting to make it so stressful and difficult to play Feral in raid in terms of tuning and utility. Can you stop letting M+ (where Feral wasn’t even OP besides MDI unrealistic pulls) affect this spec for just a few months…

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WW monk is going to, for 5 months in a row, be DEAD LAST on raid damage. Please, cmon, help us out here.

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^^^^ literally all of this. Just a strange set of changes for Feral, hoping for more tuning to come.

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Please when you nerf a spec’s ST by ~7% can you please mention it in your blueposts?

Removing Rage of the Sleeper, Elune’s Favored, and Fury of Nature from Trinket damage is no quiet nerf. Compensatory buffs, when?

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Kinda silly to nerf ferals literally 3 days after patch launches. Already a low spec representation on the pvp side of things and nerfing the one thing that makes us viable is kinda ehh.

You’re probably not going to roll cyclone + new talent in ss or 3’s

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You missed protection paladin. But a good start to tune the class.

thanks, nerf eranog ring

The state of classes is so bad right now. How are you going to nerf a class trinket sooo bad that unholy dk isnt going to use it now, and its barely ahead of other trinkets for frost now. Man, idk what happened between release and now, but the fan has been hit

This basically nuked this trinket from relevance for many classes. I was looking forward to being excited to see this rare trinket drop/appear in vault, much like the fancy rings and icon from s1. Please revert this change or give it some form of compensation. For example, for UH DK, this trinket lost almost half of its power. It is weaker than multiple S1 trinkets (Puzzle Box and Blazebinder’s Hoof) even at their massively reduced item level.

so druids still can’t fly due … too ??

what… ? exactly? an answer would be nice for once…
communicate, or was that a lie too?

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Reminder that Blood DK needs a 46% damage aura buff to keep up with a Prot Paladin.

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You nerfed it by 50%. It was posted by Wowhead this morning.

You made the trinket unuseable. It’s already been simcrafted. It’s literally better to use Season 1 trinkets than to use this trinket in any incarnation of the new form.

Even if it wasn’t that big of an issue, a 20 yard range screws over Evokers and actively punishes ranged specs for getting into things like a healer’s Efflorescence, Healing Rain, etc.

You guys have the technology to make a trinket simply not function for melee specializations and have implemented it on trinkets before. Why was this not done this time?

No, because Druid and Hunter exist. (Feral and Survival are melee, but Marksman/Beast Mastery and Balance Druid are Ranged)

What they can do, and have done in the past, is make it so a trinket simply doesn’t function for melee specs.

Which is what they should have done, instead of making the trinket useless.

And the fact there are people on the wowhead post actually suggesting they make it an intellect trinket and exclude Hunters just to make it an “easy fix” are flabbergasting.

Neat, my favorite spell got buffed :slight_smile: I wish most of my dungeon healing went into this one tbh. Such a cool spell.

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rdruid stonks :chart_with_upwards_trend:

ranged dont stand in efflo silly!

It was great on grievous week, but thats a thing of the past now.

Well , for both (SV and Feral) the trinket is good/decent but they have overall better options for trinkets. Those 2 Spec are not the problematic melee’s that are refered in the Nerf. Sure you could just make it unusable by melee aswell.

How about BM hunter?

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