Class Tuning Incoming – June 27

I mean… that’s fine (I main a Destro) except all the nerfs they listed impact all Warlock specs: nothing was specific to Demo (unless I’m misreading the notes). :thinking:

Beyond the especially high survivability of Demo in PvP, there was also nothing done to target Demo’s damage or control. :roll_eyes:

Ahhhhhh Demon Hunters, The clowns of wow. You buff our overall dps by 4-5 percent, then nerf a ring that was doing 7 percent of our overall dmg so…no buff what so ever. This is a JOKE. Give us more playstyles, more specs, man f DH this has been so long. Im about to reroll like the rest of the whiners.

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Yeah Havoc needs more. I don’t play it simply because momentum isn’t fun anymore after an hour of it.

We’re getting tuna! I like a nice tuna on rye with thin slices of red onion, tomato and sweet pickle and a leaf of lettuce! Oh wait… tuning… never mind. Drat!

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Every class out here complaining about buffs they’re getting meanwhile outlaw rogues have seen a buff or spec improvements since pre DF launch

That 3% on feral is nice and all but won’t make a difference. Feral is in such a bad spot right now it’ll take atleast a 10%-15% change to even see them move on the charts. As a long time feral player I’ve never felt like I’m doing less damage than I do right now. Which is crazy because I’m seeing shamans hit 80k damage with lightning bolt.

Right, but it impacts Demo way more because Demo actually utilizes it.
The niche strength of Demo is being tanky. When you take that away you’re just left with Destro, but weaker.

Just, just bump that feral druid damage up to 5% tosses coins

If shadow priest is doing too much damage with Catharsis why is it being nerfed for all specs? Holy Priest damage is already not great in pvp and Catharsis is our best damage ability. We also sacrifice very good survival talents to take Catharsis as holy.

The vast, vast majority of the content in this game can be done with virtually every combination of any spec, non-meta talents, making mistakes, etc.

I don’t know what makes you think otherwise.

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It seems like feral, havoc, enhance, WW, arms, BM, frost DK, and Ret are all in a battle of saying they are the worst spec.

Each one saying “no, those specs are ok, it’s MY spec that is worst”

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Hmm Catharsis receiving a solid nerf, ngl, I don’t mind. The reason I don’t mind is I don’t particularly enjoy using the pvp talent and prefer others to my playstyle

The nice thing about this nerf, I think, is that you now maybe are not particularly forced to run Catharsis any more, which previously you pretty much had to run it as a staple

In what universe do either of these specs need PVP buffs???

These are probably the 2 most populous and successful specs in their respective roles in battlegrounds.

:dracthyr_shrug: :dracthyr_shrug: :dracthyr_shrug:

BM’s have been on a steady decline ever since Neltharax got nerfed, so yes they deserve a spot in such battle lol

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Neither seems to be overperforming in ranked, although the MM buff just makes them win favorable matchups harder and probably continue to lose unfavorable ones.

Would you consider them underperforming? “Not dominating yet” isn’t cause for massive buffs.

Blizz has zero idea how to balance MM in PvP. MM players don’t want dmg, we want defensives.
Altho I will take an MM meta over demo lock meta any day of the week

Yes. They tune around ranked primarily, though, so this’ll no doubt result in even more of a bloodbath in random bgs.

I’m sure MM doesn’t see the same success in 3v3 as it does in BGs, but that has far more to do with poor defensives that are mostly designed around kiting, which isn’t really effective these days. More damage won’t help their situation much here and is just going to make them absolutely oppressive in BGs where they already dominate.

Disc on the other hand has representation in the top 5 3v3 in the US. Not sure how you claim a spec that’s showing up in the top 5 as underperforming.

Only buffing BM kill shot because of MM kill shot being the same ability? Both of them need help. This must be a joke.