Class Tuning Incoming – January 23

Is that plate armor made of Cardboard or Styrofoam I can’t tell. I feel bad for plate wearers going into battle with Styrofoam or Cardboard plate armor. But hey least they are painted really fancy.

30% armor debuff on plate really hurts.

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I’m essentially giving up on this warrior. After getting Lego, decent trinkets, 488 Ilvl, and 3200 IO, Ive hit a wall with my m+ groups. If you can get into anything over a +25(which rarely happens as a warrior unless it’s your key) you are basically just hoping your team uses their utility correctly, because all you can do is watch it fall apart. Feels bad watching

If I wasnt doing mythic raid prog, this warrior would be so far forgotten about…

I keep deleting and recreating warriors in the hopes one day I or Blizzard will get at least one right. But they haven’t yet. Came close a few times and I’m currently on a warrior that seems to be going in the right direction.

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Way to kill PvP for plate wearers. Great job! smh.

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Blizz: If you’re a plate wearer, just don’t pvp anymore.

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Silly me thinking we would have gotten anything good on Monday, just delete elemental from the game already, this spec is so badly designed that it hurts.

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Ok so I agree hunters destroy cloth specs. I can see the challenge here around balancing when a spec does more DMG to one type of target then another.

However it just feels weird for plate armor, and armor class in general, not to matter. It’s another confusing layer to PvP (one that we know bliz will not communicate in any tool tip anywhere in the actual game…uhg).

I think the MM issue is with the spec design (rapid fire does too much DMG for an instant that shoots through walls. Aimed shot at least has counter play.) Changing the entire way armor class works seems like a bad idea. Just fix the spec.

I agree it will be easier to tune this way. But idk takes away some of the class flavor.

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I wonder if this reduction in armor also effects warrior bonus attack power from armor talent.

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New hero class… let’s not be hasty and nerf them below everything else. Convienent how they forgot Evokers who have the highest mail armor which is now higher than all plate wearers.

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All you people don’t get it… You imagine you are being singled out but pay no heed to the needs of other classes and players… MMR remains broken for healers, at challenger and below, cloth gets tunneled by gap closers (that’s 80% of the player base in all forms of pvp)… so helping those folks out isn’t a bad thing, it just gives them a handicap adjustment (just like in league bowling). It’s your own fault for being “that guy”; now enjoy your nerf or buff and deal with it. Blizzard knows what it is doing… it looks at all metrics, not just you and your entitled needs.

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<< Me is that guy

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You fixed soul swap bug, that’s great. Now can affliction please have 2 spell schools again??

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They aren’t really a hero class.

Hero classes are classes based on Warcraft heroes like TLK and Illidan (DKs and DHs)

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prot warriors did not get a 5% stam increase, not sure about the ignore pain boost.

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Yeah, because they made it impossible to just weave in casts here and there, MS is really unpleasant to play. Considering how much setup we have to do to do any kind of reasonable HPS, we generally don’t have the kind of downtime we would need to make good use of MS.

Unlike some healers, our DPS doesn’t heal anyone, so it’s a straight HPS loss to DPS. And even if we don’t DPS, our HPS is well below average this tier.

Taking MS over Liveliness is also, itself, an HPS loss. Liveliness is a solid talent to lose to gain a minor mana benefit that’s clunky as hell to use. I don’t think it has any redeeming qualities in a raid setting, tbh. It’s solid in keys, but it’s just not what we need for raiding.

If wrath returned mana when cast in caster form, it would be miles better. Having it not be on a choice node with a legitimate throughput talent would also be nice.

Personally, I don’t think it should be a talent. This should just be baseline–at least the mana return part of the talent.

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New here aren’t you?

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When is fury warrior getting a buff? You guys make me hate this game with how much you buff classes that dont need it but leave the rest of us forgotten about. Why does ret need a buff every single patch?

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Bad scaling.

Fury is above all the specs that were buffed now, so ofc it didn’t get buffed now.

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I must have missed that with warriors being almost last place on every single dps chart.

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I see Fury as 10th at 90% on mythic.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/35#dataset=90

Comparatively ret is 20th spot.

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