Arcane mage needs the same buff as frost. Wack.
Would love to see a little more love for havoc.
Hmmmm, why do I feel that Assassination is going to overtake Subtlety soon.
Now that I think more of the unbalanced aspect of BM Hunter compared to MM, @Blizzard, how many BM Hunters did you see going through Race to World First? One maybe two, but as bottom feeders to the cause and definitely not pumping DPS anywhere near most classes/spec’s they had in there. Plethora of MM Hunters in RWF and in current H/M CN DPS Rankings. Where’s the BM? Not in raids. Barely any in M+ and if so, we’re not that viable, only used for Hero and Single Target, that’s pretty much it.
I would hope there would be some significant changes for BM spec so we can actually be “useful” in at least one of the pieces of content, Mythic+ specifically. Along the way if @Blizzard is considering any improvements for Hunters legendary Soulforge Embers, the AoE DoT does need a bit of increased damage and it would be ideal if the Tar Trap when and Flare when set off, mobs that enter the area also have the DoT applied to them as well. It’s upsetting when you have your initial mobs burning bright taking DoT, but when extra mobs also stroll into the “Tar” (which is flammable) while lit up with a flare (this creates FIRE) should also burn. How is it fair for a Fire Mages Meteor catches the ground on fire and mobs that enter it get DoT applied but for Hunters that use SFE don’t? Fire is fire right?
MM Hunters over the course of “class hot fixes” since launch have always been getting more buffs than nerfs. Nothing if at all, very seldom do we even see anything for BM. Other than the Revive Pet nerf from 2 sec to 4 second cast time I haven’t noticed anything for our tuning.
If you think it will be only a few weeks good luck, Havoc has been waiting, waiting and waiting and was promised to be revisited shortly after a measly 5% buff and still waiting. Many Havoc DH are angry because this is our only DPS spec, we either wait or reroll or quit. I dusted off my Warlock was going to level him while waiting only to find out locks are in the same boat, totally suck not having any communication from Bliz, if they dont intend on doing more than a token buff to keep players quiet instead of actually fixing a problem they should tell us so we can move on to something else
Frost DKs everywhere just LOL’D.
Stop trolling people and do meaningful changes or none at all, its not fun to read jebaited “buffs” it only makes ppl angrier.
Make cut to the chase a passive for sin again btw. I don’t care, not playing anymore anyway, just letting you know what ppl want for the spec.
I’m glad these specs get attention because they need a lot of love, but they’re not the only ones.
Blizzard, you need to be more aggressive with balancing, IMHO.
Hunters do not exist in rated pvp, currently are 5th in dps in raids. The one place they shine is Mythic plus and you are still going to cry?
So, what about Survival Hunter?
yup, they gotta fix mw, im losing my crap in pvp
I mean anything should be viable in normal and heroic raiding. I think even Max from Limit said a lot of specs are viable, but if your pushing world first you want to min/max obviously. Granted Havoc and others are a bit behind according to a dps chart I saw. But in my mind as long as your group is doing the mechanics and enough damage overall to kill a boss it should die.
When it comes to pvp though I have 0 clue. I just queue up in randoms and smash buttons, hell I don’t even know any one shot rotations or macros nor do I care as much. Also, they did just come out of the holiday break which this raid tier mostly took place around, so that might not have helped.
This community doesn’t simply let you play something “viable” , if you ever did a M+ you would know this.
Play with friends or guildies I hear you saying, well… if only I had any left in this crap game and if only I could even find a single ACTIVE guild in the past 5 years. Most people pug…thats fact, its also fact that if you aren’t a meta spec you are basically screwed.
Anti-social MMO that forces very specific grouping… perfect fit. If only I had a tank and healer on retainer , maybe someone could come up with an app where we pay tanks and healers $ to be our slaves so we can play a spec we want.
They nerfed Whirlwind? Ok, lol.
Glad this is getting some attention.
Recent Nathria logs posted on WOWhead show the bottom 5 DPS as
- Frost Mage (getting buffed)
- Destruction Warlock (no love)
- Fury Warrior (getting buffed)
- Beast Master Hunter (no love)
- Arcane Mage (no love)
It’s unfortunate that all 5 of these PVE laggard classes are not being addressed first.
My two favorite classes to play are Frost Mage and BM Hunter and I choose BM Hunter as a main to start the expansion just so I wouldn’t be dead last on DPS.
I run Mythic+ with Affliction Warlock and Marksmanship Hunters 10 ilvls lower than me and we do about the same damage. Occasionally booted from Mythic+ invites because I’m not Marksmanship.
PVE Balance is one of my biggest concerns - just makes you feel bad to underperform when you give it your best and you have better gear.
Please please look into frost DK (PvP wise) a little more than just a 2% buff on 2h weapons. We are hurting for a finisher and mobility, I literally beg of you
BM pets are absolute trash when it comes to survivability right now. I was really hoping for either a pet buff or reduction on the revive pet cast time. Y’all are pretty disappointing as a dev team for the largest MMORPG on the planet.
Buff frost dks more then 2% come on and give shamans back there shaman rage
how about fixing destro?
middle of the pack and even lose out in their 2T cleave niche vs (of all things their own class) aff.
Ran my Fury Warrior through Torghast last night, my Enh Shaman tonight. There is something seriously wrong with Warrior Armor and/or how they take damage. It’s like my Warrior was wearing cloth armor (seriously.) It’s not much better outside of Torghast.
imagine youre a spec with 4 people above 2400 and they buff you by 2% lmaaa