Class good for 1v1

Classes Paladin
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1st place in what? Deaths? Judging from your experience, I don’t doubt it.

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Because you are a well played rogue, unlike many others. js :cowboy_hat_face:

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Okay, we can settle this. What’s your btag?

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Ret is amazing in 1v1. One of the best, great choice. :+1:

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Retribution is only good for 1v1ing people that don’t know how to fight it. Simply put, even the most skilled of retribution paladins are exceedingly easy to dismantle if you know the hows and whens of retribution operation. Moreover, the spec’s vulnerability to being kited is absolutely hilarious.

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Sorry, but you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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Judging by your experience with PvP, I’m going to say /you/ are the one that doesn’t know what they are talking about. You greatly overestimate retribution. Not only is easy to hard counter in 1v1 situations out in the world, it also has very little representation in the highest echelons of organized PvP. The spec is only good for pubstomping. Simple as that.

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Fair enough. Let’s settle this. I want to see you dismantle me. Talk is cheap.

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Why so quite? Let’s duel. Dismantle me, I’ll take a video of it. Post it for everyone to see. That should humble you a little bit.

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Dude, I literally /just/ killed you in front of Orgrimmar. Don’t try to cover it up by posturing on a forum.

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You just beat me? I’m not even online lol. Who’s your main? Why aren’t you posting with him?

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You’re a joke pimp. Like I said, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Ret is an amazing 1v1 spec. Level a Ret OP. :+1:

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I did indeed beat you, yes. As a warlock, no less. You lost to a fricking warlock. Deny it all you want - there were witnesses.

Now with that out of the way, you need to simmer down some. People telling you that you are overestimating retribution isn’t some kind of personal attack, though you immediately respond to it as if they somehow besmirched your honor. You are objectively, factually wrong in your statements. There is zero evidence that retribution is all that amazing. Is it decent? Sure. Nobody said it’s bad, but it’s nowhere near as good as you are trying to present it to be. Skilled opponents have no trouble shutting it down.

If your experience has been that you dominate all of your opponents, as you have asserted, then I would recommend you go duel people that hover around gladiator level. You will find very quickly that retribution has many weaknesses.

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Ret is a amazing 1v1 class. OP is not going to get against Glads. He just wants a class that does well in a 1 on 1 situation and Ret does great.

You beat me as a Warlock… You can’t be serious… Warlocks completely counter Ret. Imagine, I boasted about winning a duel against a Warrior…

Btw I’ve fought and beaten many glads, means nothing. I love the game and I’ve faced em all. All the way from Hansol, Dillypoo, Jellybean, Xaryu, Pikaboo, Savix and Swifty. I’ve faced them all and beaten them. I’m not trying to prove anything, just being honest. Ret is a very good 1v1 spec. Warlocks is amazing too, doesn’t make Ret any less great.

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Btw you beat me with no LOS. Cc, chaos bolt, cc chaos bolt. Brain dead gameplay. With LOS, I can avoid all that nonsense.

Post with your warlock, no need to hide.

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I get the feeling there’s some kind of miscommunication going on here. Nobody is saying ret isn’t good for 1v1, man. We’re just saying it isn’t this god tier thing that you seemed like you were making it out to be. What we are saying is that it has readily exploitable weaknesses, some of which I will admit are flat out BS and caused more by poor design choices than anything.

And yeah, warlocks aren’t doing badly. I’ll grant you that. I’ll also grant you that paladins are easy pickings when they’ve got no LOS, especially when you get the drop on them. Additionally, I will grant you that they counter paladins super hard out in the open, without the aforementioned LOS.

Anywho, in summary: Paladins aren’t bad most of the time by any stretch. They aren’t doing well in the upper echelons of organized PvP, but in 1v1 they can hold their own against players/classes that don’t know how to/can’t counter them. On the other hand, extremely skilled players do see the weaknesses they have. It takes a very skilled paladin–one aware of the class’s shortcomings–to avoid being outplayed when these circumstances arise.

And nah, I think I’ll keep my warlock a secret. :stuck_out_tongue: Hunting down my friends while in a Discord call with them is way funnier if they don’t know it’s me.

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I like that. Definite miscommunication. I’m glad we came to an understanding. Every spec has weaknesses. Yes, Ret can be exploited, but it’s up to the player to cover those exploits. I see your point as well. :pray:

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Indeed, indeed. It’s just too bad one of those weaknesses is movement speed. I still main paladin, but I definitely can’t come up with anything good to say about them making us so slow. It’s gotten me shot to pieces by warlocks and mages that caught me out in the open more times than I can count.

Side note: Props for remaining cow instead of jumping to Zandalari like most of the other holy cows. It’s nice to see that a few are left. That stomp is far more useful than people realize.

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So which classes do you think are good at dueling then? I’m a returning player and trying to decide between Ret and Fury.

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Ret beats Fury. If you want a really good 1v1 class, just roll a Destro Warlock.