Class and Raid Tuning -- March 23

I’m surprised at this point Ion hasn’t come out and said “We don’t want people playing survival hunter”

Unfortunately for those that do it seems like that has been Blizz’s attitude since Legion .

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There is more evidence that they dont want you playing it than they do at this point.

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The better question is why they converted it to a melee spec in the first place. Because it’s pretty clear they’ve realized that was a terrible idea.

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Don’t you people have druids?

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Bare minimum effort. Equivalent of an actor phoning in a performance. Let me know when you actually do “a significant shakeup to current damage balance.”

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To be honest I have never been a fan of the melee version mained range from cata until they broke it in 6.2 .

That aside I would rather Blizz show the melee hunters some love and not do to them what they did to us that played it as range. I would rather they just give range back as a 4th spec and i as well as others will keep pressing the issue.

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Subtlety rogue buff?

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Very much all of this.

The way Blizz has handled SV ever since the start of Legion has been quite frankly insulting. That goes for both fans of the old and current spec.

Fix your crap Blizz. There needs to be a return for the old spec in the form of a 4th spec, and the current spec needs some attention rather than being given the WoD treatment and left to rot.

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Yea we are kind of there already. I know its unrealistic to expect anything helpful or changing for 9.0.5. I honestly have zero faith any changes would be made in 9.1 to help address the issues. I do not think they will make any changes above buffs/nerfs until 10.0… if there is a 10.0

I get to keep being butt outside of Condemn/Execute windows as a warrior. ~_~

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She won’t be near as hard this week, her adds don’t apply necrotic anymore.

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In general, this patch was not intended to be a significant shakeup to current damage balance.

Are you trolling us intentionally? Seriously need to make a post specifically about your stance on specialisation balance at this point. Tell your players who play Survival, Beast Mastery, Havoc and Arms how they are “balanced” at the moment. Because we are not seeing it.

And just to be completely clear we aren’t going to accept “you are good at , so you are not good at single target” responses. So if that is your copypasta you better include why it is good some players need to re-roll to do good single target DPS.

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Frost mage isn’t in a terrible spot right now, they’re just not DC Fire mage; still plenty playable but not broken. As for Havoc I think the Limit raid lead said it best “Havoc is one good single target buff away from bringing 4 of them to every fight”

Frost is actually better in normal pulls than fire lol, though you can’t tell pugs that.

Bruh

Where are Necrotic Strike, Convocation of the Dead and Death’s Due bugfixes?

Any Mage worth their salt right now is prepping their characters with leggos and gear in case Frost makes the jump to be more viable than Fire in 9.1… Either that or fire makes the plunge

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Survival is one big mistake as it is anyway.

You want them to add another spec they won’t have time / will to balance or maintain?

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In general, this patch was not intended to be a significant shakeup to current damage balance.

Will be the “Don’t you guys have phones” for WoW.

Like there will be patches for years to come and the first response will be that quote.

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One they have never been really able to balance classes and specs since this game launched on Nov. 23, 2004 but yet they added more classes and specs over the years.

Class balance is a fantasy not a reality and I would rather they add a 4th spec to give those that liked the range version of survival back then do to the melee version what was done to us.

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