And M+ is an improvement on that system. Truly that simple.
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The entire game revolves around M+ now and it’s boring to the vast majority of players. Things get nerfed for the entire game because it creates problems in small group content. You don’t think that’s ridiculous?
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It simply does not. Go out and do any of the other content available in the game.
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I would consider bringing challenge dungeons back purely for the cosmetics like they used to have.
However, I dislike how challenge dungeons handled gear. You had to have a separate set of gear at a specific ilevel that maxed out sockets and things. There could be some big QoL changes for it.
I never choose the tokens. Who needs more change in their penny jar?
it happens because of raid too. this isn’t something unique to m+.
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You can use the tokens to get more gem sockets.
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I agree with some of those proposed changes. Raiding for sure needs updates and modernization, especially for loot.
I don’t think flex mythic raiding is a good idea although I understand why you are asking for it. While it will be nice to include everyone, there is no way to balance it fairly. But, I am not sure what would be a better solution to the roster issue.
Vault points is an interesting idea. However, getting loot for bosses you didn’t kill that week doesn’t seem right. This will for sure be abused.
I’m asking for it because I run a Mythic raiding guild. Nor do I particularly care what people think, if they don’t run a Mythic raiding guild. If somebody isn’t the person who has to tell their friends, “sorry, you don’t get to play”, then they shouldn’t even be commenting on it.
more?
I astonish myself with how little I know of the game.
You use a jewelcrafter-made item to get up to 2 sockets in every ring and neck. You use the vault tokens to get a socket for helmet, wrists, and belt.
So 9 gem sockets total, 3 from great vault.
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Dude!
Thank you! I have been wondering what happened to them. Clearly not enough to google but enough to be pretty excited about this news.
and a little let down when I think about all the crap I got over the last few weeks.
If they’re “near” identical, then they aren’t identical, which means they aren’t a sock puppet 
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OP has disappeared at this point. Probably realized he has a bad take.
He didn’t say “slap in the face” or “woke”
As a guild dabbling in mythic raiding flex would be a great option. It’s something we talk about in discord a lot because we have to constantly recruit to maintain 20 active people that show up every week, twice a week. And more talks about trialing people to replace weaker performers. It’s such a pain and we still end up Pugging a spot or just 19 manning the first couple of bosses.
Let him cook, it’ll come eventually.
I’m more interested in having flex so that the entire team can raid. The problem current guilds face is that you have to have 25+ people on the team, but there are only 20 seats in the auditorium, so to speak.
So people just… don’t get to play.
And yeah, we all get around this by rotating people on fights. But there’s no need for it. Flex raiding is a good thing that Blizzard added in MoP and it’s high time to expand it to everyone.
I’m not sure how low scaling could go. I think 18 or so it wouldn’t make much difference. Looking back to the HUGE problems that 10-man Heroic had in Cata, I’m not sure you can go all the way down to 10. But going up to 30 should be fine.
Holy crap you have 65 completed/timed mists 10s, two Ara Karas, and ZERO other 10s timed. Branch out actually play the game my guy and stop fixating on doing the minimum effort required to get your gearscore up. This is actually really sad.
Honestly it really is a tragedy how theyve kept it as is for so long.
Raiding would feel fun to engage with if it wasnt all about trying to make inconvenience a thing and fighting other people over lockout loot.
They need to just apply pvp treatment for all modes at this point. So one isnt mandatory for the other. We are seeing this with the delve and m+ key interaction this season.
Why would I do otherwise?
Do the bare minimum to tick the weekly lootbox checkbox, because you cannot play around it and you dont get myth track for pushing past it.
Want me to participate in the esports? Make the progression meaningful and not about chores for a weekly. You dont get myth track in a dungeon chest so the easiest dungeon gets done at the minimum required for the weekly.