Cheaters, and Farmers, and Bots, Oh My!

Let’s all put our tinfoil hats on and get to the bottom of this… is blizzard behind the bots? Are they letting them wreck the game so they can get us all back on retail wasting money on micro transactions? I mean there has to be a real reason they are ignoring the problem.

What do you think?

My guess is that they don’t want to lose the income from all the bot/farmer subs.

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Maybe they just want Classic to die already… I thought that theory was insane when it was first suggested but since bots are now mocking us with bot names in bot guilds and literally flyhacking in plain sight I don’t know what to think anymore.

Bots are horrible for long-term profitability, anyway, so this isn’t an income thing.

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Most publicly traded companies seem to run quarterly and make sure those quarterly numbers keep going up and to the right. I’m sure their quarterly numbers are amazing (which seems to be reflected in their stock price).

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People were complaining about lotus. Blizzard thought they should be addressing that.

It does look like Blizzard can only address one issue at a time. Probably a side effect of being such a small indie game dev. Oh wait, they are a massive public traded company that tries to maximize their profits.

Blizzard, get it together and ban these bots.

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Bandaids on a shotgun blast! GG Blizz :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

why should they ban those bots?
you said it yourself, they try to maximize profits
and bots pay sub money
they’d lose something like 20% or more of their subs if they banned all the bots, and that would look bad on the quarterlies

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I have to admit that reading that whole thread was insightful. I would have preferred to state you were wrong, but that’s not fair.

It does leave me with a sour after taste as Blizzard is doing the best they can (current circumstances etc). So the current state of the game should basically be accepted(?), which I guess is a bitter pill to swallow.

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It’s been pretty obvious from the beginning that Blizzard commits minimal resources to Classic. They didn’t want it. It’s a huge slap in the face to retail developers every day that many people actually prefer a 15-year old version of the game over their modern and “improved” version.

But they couldn’t ignore the money to be made from releasing it, because successful private servers had shown that the demand was there. And, as I understand it, they also used Classic to gain a stronger legal argument for shutting down private servers, who had claimed that the vanilla client was abandonware and free game.

But it obviously gets very minimal support and resources, and it is not a very actively managed MMO. They are likely only going to address major issues that might lead to a significant decrease in sub numbers, and even then only if it’s not too much trouble. Otherwise this is the wild, wild west.

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oh
so they’re just incompetent, not in bed with them

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One false narrative falls apart and another rises.

You’re correct. Based on the people I see in the open world, it might be 50%, considering they can hide in dungeons where I can’t.

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“The lady doth protest too much, methinks”
~Some Guy

Sadly this isn’t the Blizzard of Vanilla where having this many bots would have been a massive embarrassment and had them removed by now. They are more driven by dollar signs than game quality.

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1.) Bots weren’t as advanced.

2.)The botting industry wasn’t as large or as lucrative. How many people were raiding, how many people were raiding with this extreme min/max attitude that now persists across the entire WoW community?

3.) They’ve always been driven by $$$. Remember when they introduced the first iteration of loot boxes in an MMO? Yeah, it was called the WoW trading card game. People purchased cards for a game they had zero intention of playing in order to get rare loot cards in a game they did play.

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Compare TCG to the entirety of what you can buy now. TCG is vastly minor with few rewards in comparison. They needed money then as they do now, but they weren’t beholden to a parent company that sacrificed everything for profit.

Yeah, you’re right. There’s NO WAY Blizzard would have iterated on their first successful, low effort project. They thought to themselves “Wow, we just spent thousands to make millions, we should never do something similar ever again!”

… and then Activision came along!

Stop.

Something you never see people talking about with the bots. The barrier to entry is lower in classic. They don’t have to buy a copy of the game like they would with retail. All they have to do is subscribe to the game. If they really wanted to stop the bots, they’d have put a price tag on the game of like 30 dollars. It would reduce turn over when they actually do ban them. But the way it is now they’ll just create a new account because its cheap.