People declining for “low ilvl” on braindead timewalking raids is beyond ridiculous, it’s actively killing the game. There’s already proof that a system where people autojoin Party Finder groups works: it’s called FFXIV, and pugs regularly down content that’s more difficult than WoW.
Here’s what needs to change:
Add a category for party leaders to filter for people who’ve cleared content
Set a sensical min ilvl cap on pf content. (E.g. you can’t ask someone be 620+ ilvl for S1 raid normal)
filter by classes (require unique classes for party, or set 2 of the same class max for raid groups)
filter by minimum m+ score for groups
However, once a player has made it past any sort of filter set, they automatically join the group when applying. No more of this “max 5 applications” bs and sitting in a capital city praying someone accepts you.
Yes, I start my own PFs regularly. No, I don’t think it’s a long term solution
Maybe I need more coffee but when you say “PF” groups, what exactly are you talking about? Do you mean “premade” groups like raids doing thru the group finder?
I assume you are trying to target non queued groups, in that case I would completely disagree. It is their group and they can invite or decline who ever them want based upon what ever arbitrary reason they want. The only reason they added these to the group finder option was to reduce the spam in chat.
Well it’s Blizzard’s game and they need to make money. I don’t see people paying for subscriptions if they’re gonna be sitting in a capital city trying to juggle 5 applications for hours rather than playing.
Like I said, this system exists in other MMOs and there are 0 complaints about it because it just works. Want to be more picky with who you invite? Don’t use PF then, invite your friends.
Yeah I agree, especially when people are so stupid to decline you for your ilevel in content where your level and ilevel is scaled the moment you zone in.
Blizzard sees player-gated grouping as the only right way end content should be done. They begrudgingly put up with things like normal dungeons and LFR. They think being gated out of groups will encourage mediocre players to chase the meta and churn their team of fully optimized and geared characters, every one ready to take that next nerf and move on to the next best spec and role just like the paid esports professionals who are playing the game right™ do.
The problem is that players actually do leave the game when they get tired of wasting their time. My best friend in the game, the most dedicated player I knew, just quit one day in Shadowlands because he couldn’t get into groups as ret. He never came back.
Telling people to rearrange their real lives and only expect to play the game when a specific subset of friends are also available and want to play the same content is unrealistic. But, if Blizzard thinks the game would be better off with fewer players, and you come to the forums telling us that you personally can change human nature with your posting, surely if you say it enough that will make it Truth™.
Doubt they will. Everyone would just queue for the raid, to down the 5 bosses real quick, and skip the tw dungeons altogether. Doesn’t matter I guess. Would just be on par with the stuff you would get from a regular lfr.
