I realize we are not playing the MOP of old. So I don’t see why Blizzard can’t do something about players needing on things that they can’t use in Random que. I am so tired of player from Benediction server ( Ra-den you can’t hide from everyone) needing on things they can’t even use. IE: tier tokens their class can’t even turn in or anyone other than a hunter needing on the Sha-touched agility gun. I get you can’t stop players from being toxic but, I don’t see why players can at least use/ equip have a higher change to get a better roll. Even make rolling on non class items have a penalty on a need roll. Am I being ridiculous for being butt hurt about this or just need to except this is the way things are and do expect anything better?
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Its certainly ridiculous but not much can be done about it. I’ve had numerous cases probably 10+ times now where people needed on tier they didn’t need or other items so they could vendor/disenchant them.
Personal loot would be a great addition to resolve this issue in the random dungeon system.
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Certainly can do something to help. Nobody should be able to need an item that is not of their class/armor type. Put a d/e button in the game that functions as a alternate greed button.
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It’s off-putting. Just tonight I did 2 dungeons before shutdown, and in each dungeon a person from Raden needed on all the loot. A paladin in group was in blues and needed on the conqueror tier token, but so did the druid tank from Raden who won it. Then the paladin needing on the agility dagger and vanquisher token in another run.
These greedy people ruin the game for the rest of us. I miss the days where you could do a dungeon, a rare or epic BoE drops, and if it was an upgrade for someone, the group would let them take if they equipped, if they didn’t, they lost their reputation on the server.
This merge is a mess, I don’t like being on the mega realm with Raden players, not only are they terrible in the dungeons, they act like they don’t have a greed button on loot rolls.
A game is meant to be fun, these people ruin it.
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If you notice blizz already has a system in place to prevent this.
If you can’t use the item (ex. a strength class needing on int gear) you won’t win it unless no int users roll need.
If someone that actually can use the item rolls need, then the other rolls won’t even show.
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This. Anyone complaining about the current loot system isn’t main-spec rolling - or they’re rolling against someone who’s main-spec roll is the same as theirs.
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Welcome to MoP classic.
if you’re in a group with Benedictards, you better just need on literally every single thing that drops.
Because they damn sure will be.
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The issue is that people are needing on every single item. The people who choose greed get screwed over by trying to be honest. A cloth wearer just needs every plate item and, as long as no main-spec plate wearers need it, they will win it over anyone who greeds. It happens constantly.
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The thing you’re failing to understand is they can only pick 1 loot spec, and it just so happens to overlap with yours if they can need roll the same as you.
which means - you can’t really complain, all celestial loot is available for shards anyway, get over yourself and stop thinking you’re entitled to loot.
You’re literally the same exact person as they are, needing on everything and anticipating entitlement to the item because you are the one rolling and not them.
The cognitive dissonance required to hold this position is outstanding.
That part. 9 times out of 10 if there’s someone in the group needing on EVERYTHING, they’re from Bene.
Did Direbrew on my prot pally. Tank trink dropped and I rolled need. A priest in the group looked at my gear (fresh 90), said “yeah you need that”, then rolled need and won it. 
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how about no.
it kind of works. but the agi trinket that is celestial one from elegon out of jade temple went to a tank when a dps needed on it… its not perfect but its better than forcing everyone into personal loot.
i have lots of screenshots for people in random dungeon finder with +500 item level and they keep pressing need on any item they can equip.
for example a rogue with hc tier chest needed on celestial tier token 
and so on.
people need for either vendor spec or disenchant.
and the only solution to this crap is “force personal loot in random dungeon finder” because even when the system is need before greed, it won’t prevent someone from needing all his class items from celestial even if he doesn’t actually need cus he have higher item level, But ofc those greedy selfish trash players will never want personal loot to come to classic mop because it will kill the way they abuse loot in dungeons / raids
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my hunch is that you don’t want or like personal loot because you like needing in the dungeon system.
If the argument is that you like controlling loot, as in loot master or the need/greed system, then that would still be available to pre-made groups.
were looking for a solution that resolves loot ninjas and those that just “need” everything.
I’d rather instead of investing effort in a crappy system like celestials - they bring back LFR so we can actually fight the raid bosses for the gear they drop and feel like we’re playing the game and not cheating on a private server that’s too lazy to code the right content.
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It’s apparent wow is the most toxic community on the internet
Though personally I find it absolutely hilarious because from my experience the majority of players who still play this game lean a certain way social-politically, which would suggest this should be the most wholesome community on the internet.
The fact it’s the complete opposite is very very telling.
Some people might even get mad at this post too! Because the only thing that upsets someone more then the truth is when you call them a hypocrite on top of it. xD
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Can you articulate some downsides of dungeon loot being personal? I’m 100% against personal loot in raid format but it would instantly solve these ninja problems in random dungeons.
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true that LFR will allow you to see the encounter and fight the boss
while celestial feels like private server system which gives you all “LFR items in 1day” since celestial items is same item level in lfr in the first place except that in looking for raid even if u r super lucky u will get 2~4 items per week, but the celestial system will gets u all items in one day.
blizzard is making the re-release too easy in so many ways and they never showed care toward abusers as if they want people who play this game for fun to quit and only people who want to do rmt stays
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my hunch is you’re completely wrong.
i’ve been a victim of personal loot in the prepatch of BFA going all the way through to the second tier of that xpac. I almost never saw loot. it would be 3-4 weeks before i saw anything and it would be the same piece of garbage. No thanks.
and personal loot sucks and your solution sucks. there is a soft reserve baked into the the game already. if you’re a strength user and can’t take an int cloth item. also its celestial gear. it’ll drop again and you have fragments as pity rolls.
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