Cataclysm Classic
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In OG Cata, a popular method was to farm NPCs during a phased booty bay where bruisers were level 35: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ9EGZgzmK8), but with the modern update to booty bay, level 85 bruisers remain, and will continue to snipe players through walls, or spawn directly on them, one-shotting them within phased booty bay.
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Because of ganking during classic vanilla, bruisers were significantly overtuned, especially now that they’re the same level as max-level players. When attacking an NPC, modern bruisers will continuously snipe players through walls and knock them back, and often one or two will spawn directly on a player, one-shotting max-level, pre-raid BiS cloth wearers.
In Vanilla, bruisers were green to max-level players.
In WOTLK, bruisers were level 67, and grey to level 80 players (https://youtu.be/zuzqERxqhQ4?si=RVI-f8LNER2Tl5NY&t=64)
Is it possible to re-tune bruisers, as sniping characters through walls, or spawning directly ontop of them wasn’t present in OG Cata, and the tuning relative to every other expansion (classic or original) meant bruisers were significantly easier to handle, with hunters/mages farming bruisers 13 levels under them, compared to the current level 85 beeftanks that blast you through two walls?
Similarly, these max-level bruisers were not present in phased booty bay of OG Cata.
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Thought I was doing something wrong but found old videos of people farming the NPCs during the event and there are no lvl 85 guards anywhere
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It’s because the guards were explicitly overtuned, given additional spawns (and spammed everywhere), and overtly spawn on you if no one’s around…before, it was never a problem because they bruisers were 13 levels lower than you (and grey)
Similarly, their spammed spawns continue into the phased versions of BB, which never existed.
Rep farm is really no longer viable, which is sad, as it was literally a meme with level 60’s in WOTLK and insanely trivial
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+1 also
Having worked through the Bloodsail questline, just discovered this. Not original to Cata.
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+1 just encountered this now. Total wall out of no where, because no way in hell can you do the original strategy anymore. This is not how it was.
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Is this going to be changed? The booty bay guards kill me in like 5 seconds. You can’t even fight back. How are you supposed to get rep??
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please fix would like to finish out my rep grind
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+1 please, fix this. You can’t even kill 1 Goblin when 2-3 Elite 85’s spawn on top of you and obliterate you in seconds. I feel as if the current Devs. have lost touch with the game and need to actually “play” so they understand some of the issues they create when they add/remove things.
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+1 I would also like to do this farm. But it would even be impossible with a raid cause you get tossed everywhere. Please do something about the guards. no one even goes to Booty Bay anymore.
They had increased guards in 2019 classic because of ganking/griefing. The guards levels were increased to 85 even though no one is hardly ever ganked there now in 2024 Cata Classic. Yet in Wrath Classic they were 67 I believe.
Sending in a ticket, we will see.
Just get good. Simple as.
Just ran across this thread while trying to replicate the original Cata strategy for farming BSB rep and wondering why I was getting absolutely crushed by guards.
Tuning-wise, I’m not sure how the current level 85 bruisers in Booty Bay compare to their counterparts in original Cata. However, in o.g. Cata those level 85 bruisers weren’t present at all in the phased version of BB that exists during “Doublerum.”
Is this an oversight or intentional?
Since it’s a phased version of the city that only exists during one quest, it seems harmless to take them out. Unless there’s a design intent to make BSB rep much more difficult to farm in Cata classic, or there’s a special concern about griefing, neither of which seem like they should apply.
In retail, this method of farming BSB rep is still valid today.
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any word on a fix for this?
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+1, wanted to finish off my bloodsail reputation grind now that you don’t have to sit in badlands for a week.
Bootybay and other town guards are insane right now, they’re basically a heroic dungeon trash mob in difficulty right now.
I went and got into the phased version of booty bay despite already being revered w/ bloodsail. There seems to be two issues
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Booty Bay Bruisers are a mix of lvl 35 and 85, IE the normal ones part of the event
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All Booty Bay Bruisers that spawn when you attack an NPC are lvl 85.
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My ticket’s got the automated GhatGPT response, until the 4th time. Then the “GM” told me to send in a bug report.
We got tired of waiting for it on Pagle and are farming it in raids.
I leveled an alt to tank it and help other people farm once I was done on my main.
Unfortunately, I have to suggest that people from other servers to do the same, because support for Cataclysm classic is borderline abandoned and among the plethora of issues the game has, I’d imagine, and hope, that this one is of a very small priority so should take a while to be addressed.
Next rep farm for Bloodsail Buccaneers on Pagle will be at 19:00 server time, if you’re on Pagle, we’re organizing them on Pagle’s achievement discord
thanks for the heads up man, is it somewhat doable?
you need a tank and a healer
They can 1-2 shot cloth users, close to that to leather/mail, so tank needs to be on to top of his game.
ideally you need at least 4 people, there is no rep penalty with raids, so sometimes we make groups of 7-8
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https://youtu.be/HQXyfj98sFE?si=iPVCjK8PQh4sjsg-&t=42
Adding further information of someone rep farming from OG Cata on youtube
- Bruisers didn’t do annoying knock back
- Bruisers are level 77, not overtuned level 80’s
- Bruisers are NOT elites, so they’re even easier to kill
Obviously, OP still stands with phased booty bay having overtuned bruisers when they should be non-elite level 35’s (and not knock back or snipe through walls)
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