To many casual players Wow is a fun pleasant game in a fantasy realm they can roam around in a open world sandbox environment. Exploring, doing quests and missions, appreciating the geography and characters they see. They play either solo or with friends. They will stop at a river or lake and fish for hours. They may decide to spend time at their garrison. Having fun and staying chill.
Running raids doing mythic plus or any other almost mandatory runs for more gear and more gear until they are stressed out because of it. Specially in guilds, is anathema to them.
Is there any real Fun / Happiness benefit to charging through the game for high content loot / gear. And bragging rights?
Or would you rather have a pleasant walk through the forest smelling the flowers.
Would be nice if Blizzard designed content with that type of player in mind, because they still don’t even after claiming to in Zereth Mortis. I’d rather have a bit of both, I enjoy the harder content but I’ll also spend two hours stubbornly trying to get a schematic without Door of Shadows or the teleport gloves inside of a building. Problem is, one is continuous, the other will eventually have a finite end because Blizzard struggled with casual content that isn’t mounts or pets.
Anyone doing it for “bragging rights” is cringe AF and should probably go touch some grass. But that is not everyone, I would argue not even the majority. For myself, and the guildies and friends I play with the end game is fun. Mythic raiding with the boys is where the fun comes from.
Doing world quests, fishing, garrison stuff, etc. are all boring and mindless IMO. I don’t find that type of “walk thru the forest smelling the flowers” type of gameplay to be very engaging or fun. But to each their own, nothing wrong with doing that if that’s what you enjoy.
This the main reason why people the condensation to solo casuals because of the fun of doing so. “Oh you don’t do present day raids like I do ,so shut up” Is the phrase I mostly here from these braggers,“but do look at me” you see the point to them always so it whine up to be a one sided conversation and little to discuss at all.
it’s contributed to the huge ilvl disparity between fresh geared players or new/alt toons and the no life logged in 10 hours a day crew.
Affixes don’t really interest me. They feel too contrived.
pugging is hell on a healer - I should find a guild.
the community gate keeping can be a bit insane. Grinding out ilvl almost as high as what drops just to do content for a small % chance at a minimal upgrade is meh.
I love the idea and I use to love running dungeons endlessly, but something in the execution just kind of gnaws at me. Same 6 dungeons - grinding for the same pieces but stronger on repeat for 2 years… king of blah.
Finding a guild would help. Some of it.
I don’t want to see it gone from the game or anything, this is just what turns me off from jumping into it.
I think the game would be more enjoyable overall if they cut raids higher than Normal, M+ and Arena. Instead of balancing those spend the time on more open world content.
You see why the rares are farmable by them? because they have the gear to do so but the wquester doesn’t and we wonder why these level 62 at 1.2m health are downed fast.
Why is it so difficult to grasp that different people find different things fun? If someone doesn’t like that stuff, there’s no reason to do it, the open world content will gear them out enough to stomp anything out there.
Amazingly enough I work at work… I don’t want to work at play. The state of this game currently would be akin to me having to mold the plastic to build a jet ski just so I could go out to the lake and have a bit of fun.
While building their own jet ski might be fun to some, it isn’t fun to all.
The problem is when the LaidBackCasual only needs i220 gear for the content he does, he’s given a path to i240 gear (more than he needs) … but he then COMPLAINS because he would then be “forced” to do content he doesn’t want to do to gain access to i270 gear.
As long as Mr LaidBackCasual farms his i240 to do his i220-sort-of experiences, he continues to have LOADS of fun and everything is fine.
