Casual Players have no chance with this expansion

My feeling is the present devs are trying to “turn back the clock” to an alternative reality that never existed in wow previously. They seem to think that the game should have been harder core to begin with, and should have taken a full hardcore turn after vanilla, instead of catering to the majority, who were pleased with the quality of life changes the game gave them.

It’s not about fun. It’s about suffering to prove you are more masochistic than other people, which makes you…more deserving?

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Because a system like Badges isn’t just for “Casuals”. Everyone is feeling the pain of the gear drought. It’s all relative.

What do you mean you get nothing? For normal, heroic, and Mythic0 dungeons your party gets a ton of loot dropped for the entirety of the dungeon… For M+ you get 2 pieces of loot to drop for your party of 5, which is quite the high % to receive loot if you’re timing your dungeons.

Not only that, but you get guaranteed loot choices each week for high IL given through your Vault if you pushed keys.

Quite sure you have no idea what you’re talking about here. :slight_smile:

Actually, many classes/specs BiS leggos are guaranteed drops while others just plain got hosed (like both of the specs I wanted to play, heh).

“A ton of loot”? You mean like more than the less than one piece per player per dungeon we saw in BfA? How many pixels are in “a ton”?

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Considering that you can get upwards of 1-3 pieces of loot per dungeon… I’d say that’s quite a bit. :slight_smile:

To get completely geared out it would take a maximum of 1.5 to 2 hours… Completely geared out.

What is the issue with this? Nothing, because it’s gearing up for max level content. There is nothing to complain about.

This is utterly false. In BfA a typical player in a normal dungeon got 0-1 pieces of gear per entire dungeon, and that gear was not always useful. I played many, many of those dungeons. I never ever got 3 pieces in a dungeon. It was very unusual to get 2 pieces of gear, less common than getting none. That’s a complete fabrication on your part.

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… is this a long form troll of some kind?

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Nope! :slight_smile:

I get at least 1-3 pieces of loot per dungeon for normal thru mythic0.

Nothing about that is fabricated and you must simply have immeasurable bad luck.

huh, the second coming of tupacshekar came way faster than i anticipated.

I don’t think it’s a stretch to suggest that there are more casual players paying money for a subscription than hardcore. So Blizz should definitely also be catering for the vast numbers of casual players.

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What is trolling about this? :slight_smile:

You have guaranteed chances of loot, and you cannot disprove that either. You have nothing to complain about.

Someone is not “trolling” simply because you chose to disagree with facts.

what in the great value :tm: tupacshekar is this?

So you’re saying that 3 times as much loot drops in normal, heroic, and mythic 0 dungeons than did in BfA, despite constant complaints about low drop rates in those exact dungeons when everyone was using them to gear up in the first few weeks of the expansion?

I think not.

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So instead of trying to prove your point… which doesn’t exist because loot is fine… you revert to trolling yourself? Then enjoy your report. :slight_smile:

“Loot is fine”. Then why are you lying about the drop rate if it’s “fine”? You are the only player who has said that loot is generous in those 3 difficulties, and hundreds have said it is not.

The idea that those 3 difficulties now give 3 times as much gear as they did in BfA is ridiculous.

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There’s nothing that I’ve said that’s a “lie”. :slight_smile:

If you choose to deliberately ignore facts that normal-M0 dungeons drops multiple pieces of loot for people, then that’s your choice. It doesn’t mean it’s true.

Loot is fine in dungeons and drops a decent amount for the party completing them.

It doesn’t. You claim you got 3 pieces of gear yourself for all those difficulties. That is false. Your claim is not a “fact” in any way. It is a fabrication intended to deceive people.

The idea you are pushing is that each of those difficulties gives 15 pieces of gear for the group per dungeon. That is a preposterous lie.

Nothing about what I said is false. :slight_smile:

If you choose to intentionally believe things that are incorrect then that’s your choice, granted it’s the incorrect choice to make.

Citation needed. Show us where it says that all these difficulties give 15 pieces of gear per dungeon for the group.