Caster nerfs when?

how?

are we playing the same game?

I literally played 6 lobbies today between 1800 and 2k.
respectively 2k as sv and 1800 as marksman.

as survival I didn’t really pay attention and care,

then I make a challenge to myself to reach 2k in all hunter specs.
survival done, then as soon as I switch to mm from 1800 to 2k all see in 6 lobbies is warrior dk ret, dh war ret, or double warrior ret.

there are no casters dude.
I didn’t even see one!

we must play diff games

Casters are all 2400+.

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Bear form is less of a defensive than pretty much any classes self healing and makes the class do nothing while it’s “in use”.

They almost NEVER do. Its ONLY done to channel frenzy when healers are in CC or before stuns. You will very often die through bear form if cds are committed.

Sure, but youre objectivvely playing REALLY suboptimally, bro.
You cant use your experience to inform balance if youre not playing correctly.

Ive played pretty much every class/spec above a glad level and have been pretty vocal about classes needing nerfs, even when im playing them. Cyclone should be nerfed by a full second and id like to see mastery nerfed and bases buffed slightly to even out the variance in starsurge/goldrin’s fang burst damage.

Moonkin has several strengths, but its defensive strength is definitely NOT one of them (nor should it be with its mobility and cyclone).

It is objectively the squishiest caster in the game (not easiest to kill, just mathematically the squishiest).

You can cloak it off or dispell it. Its why its basically never used.

apparently that’s what cov just told me

Require a channeled cast time to use it, perhaps?

Basically like perma minor dispersion with no CD?

See it plenty, both Owlkin give big armor and bear makes it very hard to land kills because they can do it whenever they like.

How would you even know? Pretty bad faith arguments honestly.

I guess no one can talk unless they won Blizzcon championships and AWC, so bye?

Really is, pretty tanky for a caster.

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You do though because you seem to think shadow priests are casually solo’ing people while they triple cc the enemy team. Which is not a thing that can really happen.

Also to clarify, I am not trying to say shadow is bad, it is great. Current shadow and pre 10.0.5 shadow have been the strongest iterations of the spec since pretty much WoD.

I’m not sure what you’re sacrificing, but how is it not worth it? I don’t see why you wouldn’t take disarm against warrior when it’s basically a 5 second silence to completely nullify all their CDs.

It’s dispellable IIRC. That’s the main reason. Probably better to take that knock up starfall talent, thorns, and HIGH WINDS GOTTA SPAM CYCLONE LOLOLOL

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ret is less of a melee than sv. their stun is their shortest range active ability

  • moonkin isn’t actually very good at forcing the enemy healer dispel at a particular time. whether they’re spam dispelling your dots to push back your dmg is kinda up to them, but disarm does make a good punish for that
  • dispellable as gomachi said
  • shares a school with clone
  • costs you owlkin adept, which is a smaller loss now than it used to be(this is why you take it into sub and mm teams sometimes)
  • denied by bladestorm or reflect or ams

you should be using this website to answer the question “what build are most current players of a given spec using” in general, and it’s accurate for moonkin although ofc recency of the last adept nerf won’t be reflected yet in all 50 players it counts

how old are you

While not incorrect, I won’t surrender on this Ret v Warrior issue.

Did you really drop that line on a video game forum? Take a look in the mirror my guy.

i hope your feelings aren’t hurt

why are you asking people their age? why do druids do this so much

Yeah I’m real torn up about a guy named bathrobe asking how old I was on the world of warcraft arena forums.

NGL I had the exact same thought but didn’t want to say it. Lmao

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watch out back in his day he had to speak to people to get arena rating

i can tell from your maintained good humor

dont talk to my little brother like that DRUID

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yea like HE SAID

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We still have to catch you to heal since both our heals are upon attack, similar to a dk but dk uses runic power to heal, both fury heals are on cds, well as far as fury, we are pretty much rip if we hit enraged Regen and casters pillar away or a rogue disarms us or roots bla blah bla. That’s not counting if the healer isn’t stunned tho so yeah. That’s just a few examples. Yes we have 2 charges and a leap but even those can be easily stopped sometimes.

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