I know im not that good but does it really mean i should be punished and not get any gear progession?? Literally gained 10 rating all weekened.
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Can’t do the content, don’t get the rewards.
Simple as.
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Thanks for that i guess noobs should get shxxt on then f them right? You guys dont want new players f them right?
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rewards at 2k and 2200 like wep/shoulders CAN be meaningful and healthy for the game
but current gearing system is stupid and anyone that thinks pve gear progression to this extent belongs in pvp is a moron
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I’m gonna be real with you, that would actually be better for the long term health of the game and for the players as a whole.
Players cried for the longest time about how they paid to play the game, they should at least get to see the content at a minimum. This is valid to an extent, the main complaint for this was people from small dead servers who played with a couple friends and didn’t want to transfer. They needed easier content, which is why multi difficulty raids came forth.
But that wasn’t enough for them, now people don’t want to have to put forth the time to make groups, which was understandable at the end of WOTLK for dungeons and the like, but that got applied to Raiding, and then we had LFR.
It’s been a downhill spiral over the years. The general entitlement that people have to gear and participate mixed with an inherently competitive game created the need for multi tiered difficulty. Suddenly, the 13 ilvl difference between entry level and hard-core gear in a tier became 60 ilvls, which ironically whoops the little guy’s behind way harder than not catering to them.
It’s a hard to swallow pill, but erasing entitlement to gear advancement would actually increase the vertical progression capability for the most casual players, especially if we can somehow return to one-difficulty raids.
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I am doing the content im just not as good as people who have been playing for years so i should be punished for bing a new player?
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I never complained when there was pvp scaling i could compete now its so hard i can’t at all
The answer is no, you shouldn’t be getting punished for not being good.
But you aren’t getting punished, you’re just unable to progress.
Like I said, the major blame here is one patch of a game spanning 60 item levels of endgame gear. We need to go back to single difficulty and have 13 levels per tier, it closes a lot of gaps and makes entry level advancement more realistic
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I do mythic on my warrior pve is not a problem for me since ive been playing ffxiv savage for years pvp is because i am not able to obtain the right gear. I playing wow just to pvp because its fun but i had more fun in bfa than in shadowlands just because im not as good as the people that have been playing for years and know how to counter and cc correctly. Heres my mythic achievements if you think im lying…
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we hate noobs around here. go play something else
not srs. i wish this game was better, but currently pvp is very very hard and just bad for new players
sorry mate
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100% agree.
1 set honor gear
1 set conquest gear.
Bonus rewards at 1800 - 2000 - 2200 and Gladiator + reward for rank 1’s?
Cant use pvp gear in instanced pve at all.
GG problems solved
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Love it. Love everything about it.
Honor gear should = Mythic Dungeon
Conquest should = Raid gear (of a one difficulty raid)
I would prefer we go back to 1800 for T1 wep and 2200 for T2 wep.
This I don’t like. Some people just wanna dabble in something, I like the “gear is gear” mentality. Ilvl ranges are just getting dumb which is the biggest problem
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Ok well make the pvp able to be used but a lower ilvl. And lower pve ilvls in pvp.
More realistically, I’d like to keep item levels similar and instead ensure that full BIS cannot be obtained from any one event.
I’m ok with and pvp items coming from pve kinda like how resilience gear dropped from raid and dungeons in tbc.
I’m also ok with pve items coming from pvp.
I just hate the idea of doubling a workload just to dabble in other content. I’m ok with doubling workload to get BIS though
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I’m sure the slew of people with 40k hp in the 1300 bracket aren’t boosting and/or buyers.
/s
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i don’t fault you as someone that is probably in a moderately okay mythic guild that also enjoys qing arena to some extent for having this opinion
but i don’t think it’s an opinion that’s good for the game
maybe it’s opinion, i’m not going to anecdotally say “a majority of the community !1!” but i feel pretty confident that a good amount of disdain has always come from wrath/cata raid items being overwhelmingly powerful in arena
the games a lot different than it was in tbc and wotlk
there’s tons of systems that wow SHOULD revisit
i don’t think that’s one of them though
i think mop/wod had EXCELLENT systems
but i think they could middle ground those systems to let gear cross over a little bit more at lower-mid levels without being miserable at the top end for either
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I actually don’t raid at all, and mainly do pvp between 2200-2400 most seasons.
I agree with you here. Trinkets should probably be one of the only things that are locked to specific content. I definitely think the pvp trinket bonus was a step in the right direction.
Why is this a mindset? I’m not mad that I don’t have mythic raid gear, I don’t raid and haven’t put in the work to clear a mythic raid. I haven’t done mythic + and mapped out runs and made a group for KSM so I don’t have the mount. I haven’t farmed Sha of anger every week so I don’t have the mount.
Gearing system is bad but you’re not getting punished you’re just unable to meet the requirement for rewards, that’s in your hands if you want it then you have to improve and get there.
Gearing system sucks but so does participation trophy mentality
No, it should give you incentive to keep practicing and getting better.
Why does everyone want handouts without putting in the work.
How can i keep practicing when i get stomped over and over? You just like having a gear advantage so its easier to kill people and you dont have to work so hard, you know its hard finding partners in lfg willing to help you out. Nobody said giving handouts but when its been 5months and i can’t upgrade a single pvp item when i already got combatant in dec when everyone was the same geared as i was. Yea im not that good never said i was but wating in lfg for a hour just to break even every single day is not fun. But thats okay with you because f noobs they need to git rekt because there sh**terz.
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Because you haven’t improved in the last 5 months. It’s not impossible a ton of players have done it.
Even if you’re not skilled enough to gear in arena virtually everyone can do it in rbg. It’s been half a year obviously you’re late and lfg is dead because everyone p much hit their goals