Canceled sub. Goodbye until multiboxing is back with full glory

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Ignorant people like you conflate multi-boxing with people who basically bot. There are TONS of casual multi-boxers, and you didn’t know it, because they were just minding their own business PLAYING THE GAME.

I first manually dual-boxed starting in BC, and then triple-boxed when they came out with the new RAF. I use one pc per account. I use one input device per character. I only ever used addons that use Blizz’s own API. The only things I used to even help me, were something that strobed “follow”, because regular, non-strobed follow has (deliberately?) been nerfed into the ground, and is fairly useless now, and mounting. That’s it.

I just leveled my characters, did world quests, and solo’d old content. I often invited people to group to help them, and they never even realized I multiboxed.

As my physical disabilities have worsened, being able to multibox actually helped me, because even with the badly nerfed DPS I did, it was still lower key than my trying to intensely play one character (my hands are pretty badly disabled and my motor control is compromised).

While it sucks that casual multiboxers are punished because of how Blizz addressed paid, unattended dungeon and raid carries, the worst part is how it affects the disabled.

Not just me, because single boxing IS much harder for me, bizarrely enough, but because there are other disabled players, , that are effectively screwed now.

And Blizz knew this. They were TOLD this. And doubled down on being their usual ableist, toxic selves.

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Multiple global actions per input is bannable and multiboxing breaks this rule.
It is not botting, but is arguably adjacent to botting.

Truly, my heart goes out to you. I cannot imagine how it would be to not have full motor control with my hands, though I cannot agree that multiboxing is any more than a bad bandaid for any of the community that struggles with disability.
Ignoring any other arguments that could be made against multiboxing: asking one to pay for more accounts to supplement a disability would be highly predatory on Blizzard’s part.

I really think it would be better to advocate for better interface, control schemes, and new controller options for those that do have difficulties playing. They’ve sort of done this by looking into Xbox controller options and adding a new targeting mechanism, though I’m sure it falls short for some as the Xbox controller isn’t designed very well to suit those needs.
I would highly encourage you to make posts about things like this and look into peripheral options for yourself. I can’t make any recommendations as I am not familiar with your situation.

I do hope that you can find a better option.

End note: if you look into cast sequence macros and can learn your way around the GSE addon: you can make some really strong one button macros that perform your rotations by simply repeatedly pressing the same button over and over. I’ve used this as a Restoration Druid so that I could easily DPS while focusing my attention on healing.

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You have zero clue what you’re talking about, oh condescending know-nothing. You didn’t even comprehend my post, because you hate multiboxers so much that you just ignore what disproves you.

I don’t have multiple actions per input. I have three PCs. I dirty click the primary, and faceroll the second and third using two small macro pads that are activated via the thumb and pinky of my left hand. THREE SEPARATE INPUTS, THREE SEPARATE ACTIONS.

I know a lot of people (usually “altoholics”) that harmlessly multibox within the ToS. Unlike you, with your fiction-based outrage and ignorant bias, they harm no one.

People like you are a danger to society, because you are SO firm in your belief that you’re right, when you have ZERO clue what you’re talking about. You go around harming others while patting yourself on the back. Honestly, if people like you weren’t literally setting democracy on fire, it would almost be amusing.

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Gee, cast sequence macros sound a lot like cheating. You don’t actually play your character, a button you press plays it for you automatically. What a hypocrite.

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There is nothing hypocritical about my reply to you.
Cast sequence macros are a feature of the game created by the developers and multiboxing often requires an external tool that can replicate a single button press across multiple characters.
And just because you either don’t utilize your tool in such a way or don’t know how to, doesn’t change that one typically uses single button presses to simulate the same button press across multiple characters in sync. This is most noticed by other players when getting ganked by multiboxers that use a very large amount of characters in PvP.

Your underutilization does not prove anything, positive or negative, about multiboxing.

you’re very blind to how your style of gameplay hurts other players and seem to get off on projecting your thoughts onto other people.

When you’re logged in, you should be one a single character. Period. If you don’t like it, there are plenty of non MMOs that you can cheat in.

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A castsequence macro requires a press for each action in the casequence line.

If the user stops pressing the button that is assigned to the castsequence macro then the macro stops at the last action used. But if they have a conditional like ’ reset=5’ then the macro resets back to start of castsequence after 5 secs of the assigned button not being pressed.

Its falls under the one press one action rule of the tos in regards to automation and is legal.

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They likely understand that and were saying that they press different buttons for each action instead of simulating multiple button presses with one button like in typical multiboxing.

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Again, you have no idea what you’re talking about. BOTTING and BANNED methods of multiboxing are what you have an issue with, and again, you paint ALL multiboxers with the same brush as the people that use banned methods.

The most ridiculous part of all this, is that you aren’t aware of the MANY (compliant) multiboxers you run into in the game world, BECAUSE WE AREN’T INCONVENIENCING YOU IN ANY WAY, so you CANNOT TELL!!!

I hate to break this to you, but the /follow API is (was) also a feature of the game created by the developers. And it’s been allowed for many, MANY years. Killing it was ineffective towards the stated goal it was to accomplish, and serves only to hurt the innocent. Given the follow API JUST allows a character to more easily follow another one, it is inarguably MUCH less of a “cheat” than a castsequence macro, yet THAT is still allowed in-game (and should be, to help the disabled).

And again, you’re OK with that contradiction - presumably because (barring physical or mental disability) you can’t be bothered to learn a character rotation and press more than one button. But hey, this benefits YOU so OF COURSE it’s OK. That you don’t see the hypocrisy in that just emphasizes what a farce your stance is on this topic.

My dude, I don’t USE “tools”. That’s the WHOLE POINT. It’s not that I use tools poorly, I DON’T USE TOOLS. I MANUALLY (used to) play three accounts. My three setups are no different from anyone else’s. My macro pads are just set to the numbers 1-10, so they’re literally the same as using the number row on a keyboard. They’re not set up with (against ToS) macros of any kind.

It is IMPOSSIBLE, without doing something against ToS, to play the spell rotations of multiple characters and do the same damage or healing, as the same number of characters each being played by a single person. The follow macro just helps when flying your characters places (somewhat) and helps keep characters moving together in combat (somewhat). Still super likely to have toons die, a LOT, given the insane AoE used by mobs these days. Also just helps you keep track of characters when things are crazy (world bosses).

The follow api hasn’t worked in PvP for YEARS, so I assume you’re talking War Mode? Either the multiboxers are cheating (and should be banned), or maybe you just aren’t very good at PvP and should turn that off instead of crying?

Blizz can go after cheaters without hurting all (compliant) multiboxers - not to mention the disabled. But the devs are just as biased and ignorant as you are, on top of an issue of laziness and severe ableism.

This move does little to hurt people breaking ToS, but allows Blizz to falsely make a HUGE deal out of pretending to clean up the game. Unintelligent players get to feel something significant has been accomplished, when the only people punished are the ToS-abiding, and the disabled. The actual cheaters are just moving on to other methods, the way they always do.

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Most multiboxers now use the round robin system where they have each account arranged on the one screen in windowed mode and they move the mouse over each screen while pressing a button each time the mouse moves over a window.

They are pressing one button for each window the mouse moves over.

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Woah whats with the hate?

I still dualbox. Just ran a Dungeon today with my Bear Tank and Shaman Healer.

Got a Paladin tank in the works with a Priest Healer.

And before you start screaming at Blizz…I run a Desktop and a Laptop with certain macros on the laptop for my healer.

I most definitely miss the old days of running the software and both accounts on one computer, but I can still play (limited) with my Laptop as secondary.

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Ignorance? I know there are tons of casual multi-boxers. Don’t care. I know it helps some players play. Don’t care. I know many of them mind their own business. Don’t care.

The multi-boxers are the ones that ruined it for themselves. Not the average, casual player. Not your raid loggers. Not the RP crowd. Not the M+ folks. Not the PvP crowd…

The people who RUINED multiboxing were the multiboxers. If you want to be annoyed or frustrated at anyone, be annoyed at the people who abused it. Profited off it. Destroyed the economy for regular players. Destroyed farming on large realms. Destroyed immersion that many players rely on to enjoy the game. Nothing like seeing BOOMKIN1, BOOMKIN2, BOOMKIN3, etc. fly past you for the 10th time as they tap every node… leaving everyone else with nothing.

Hate the multiboxers that came on the forum and BRAGGED about paying for 10+ accounts with farming only. Blame the 40 person raid group multiboxers that sat in pvp zones making it impossible for players to even take a step. Blame them.

You can STILL manually do this. It’s not against the rules. Broadcasting is.

It sucks that you’re dealing with something many of us will never have to, but that doesn’t change that fact the game was built with some rules to create a world we can all play in and have fun in. Too many people took advantage of tokens and 10 cap nodes. They were easily the most arrogant players in the game. Flaunting their ‘wealth’ on the forums with complete disregard for any potential consequences. It took years for Blizzard to take action. In all that time those players could have backed off. They didn’t and this is the result.

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99% of multiboxers werent 40 person boxers. In fact most people never even bot over 5 characters. It was literally the .5 of 1% like Prepared and the sock eater guy with their 40 person bot trains that ruined it.
Plus what they do is nothing like actual multi-boxing. Running 40 mages and spamming arcane explosion takes zero skill. Running a 5 man team through a dungeon, or even just running a tank/healer takes a crazy amount of coordination and setup. The fact that they ruined what was a multi-faceted and interesting way to play the game with their 40 person one button teams is just plain sad…

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That’s literally only cheating in your made-up imaginary world.

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…anti-boxers who didn’t understand they don’t like competition and went to forums (such as yourself) and spread false information and rhetoric against multiboxers. Your reply is typical of an anti-boxer in that there is never a mention of competition nor of how groups work in MMOs. The anti-boxer doesn’t want to include in their false information how groups work because it goes against their rhetoric.

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It’s concerning how bad your response is.

Get outside. Touch some grass. Get off the game.

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Going back to actually play EQ is impossible because every “group” you see is one dude. Multibox to level cap, multibox to farm, actually play one character in a raid (maybe, lol).

If you play on a TLP good luck ever sitting at a camp you want to farm.

Multiboxing becoming accepted and widespread would be just as terrible in any mmo as it has been in EQ.

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Multiboxing is a straight up advantage, more so in games where grouping is required to be successful.

Unlike botting, multiboxing is paying for a tangible advantage, no matter what you tell yourself, and most people dont like pay to win games.

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I like how of all threads this thread hating on this guy is the most popular thread on the forums. :rofl:

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exactly! No matter what you tell yourself, all grouping is a “STRAIGHT UP ADVANTAGE”. This is the way it works in all MMOs! Once you understand that a group is an advantage and is the basis for all MMOs to have an advantage over a player NOT GROUPED, then you’ll see that multiboxing is NO DIFFERENT! But you can’t understand the basics of competition, let alone why you’re conflicting against multiboxers in your statements against grouping.

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Multiboxing needs to stay gone because most people cannot do it responsibly. You run around with little to no concern for anyone around you and display toxic gameplay.

There was a time when multiboxing was good and people respected the other players and did not make butts of themselves. But not anymore and the players cannot be trusted to not return to the same toxic garbage if it was ever reinstated.

Multiboxing is gone because the players using it could not use it responsibly. Blame yourselves.

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