Cancel roll removal

Blizzard removing the cancel roll macro from monks is a very bad change that lowers the skill cap of monk and limits the play making potential, many top players agree that it is a bad change, watch here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgzq5YtSLIg

when you roll you are locked in the animation. rets can kick/hoj/blinding light on steed, mages blink is instant so they can instantly kick or db/nova w/e dhs dash is faster + they have a ranged kick. Hunters can trap/kick mid disengage. warriors can still use abilities like kick fear and storm bolt while charging. ITS NOT ABOUT THE DISTANCE. its about cancelling the animation so we can use our abilities to make plays, which other classes all have the luxury of using their abilities with their mobility WITHOUT IT BEING CLUNKY

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Honestly I think this is a great change! It will help monks to guesstimate rather than using their 14 charges of roll willy nilly. If monks can cancel it then I want to cancel charge on my warrior. Monks have everything and a self heal to top it off (and themselves too)

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Bloomsday is that you?

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Who???:ghost:

thats not the point, theres a skill cap to cancel roll and a lot of outplay potential cancelling a warriors charge isnt the same

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How so ? Post must be at least 10 characters

watch the video

I did watch it but j didn’t subscribe to your channel ha ha. But seriously my point stands

Idk I’m with the widow on this one it seems like a higher skill cap to know the distance of roll and use it accordingly rather than to just roll from wherever and cancel

the distance is not the skill cap, this is what lower rated players dont understand…

This is a really solid point actually. I agreed with the OP at first, but you’ve convinced me of your side.

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The distance is part of the skill cap, though. It’s like a hunter knowing exactly where he will land after a disengage, or a mage knowing just the right spot to blink to land CC

so have you never engaged with a community that isn’t viewers lf carries or do you just not know how to talk to people at all

ok i watched the video and “watch the video” isn’t even an answer to the question, it’s just a bunch of streamers answering a survey. where is the nuance? who describes this outplay potential and how?

the idea of anyone maining monk through the removal of fist stun but not the removal of roll cancel is really funny to me. i’m old, i remember when roll distance based on jump timing was the only way you could get chi torpedo damage and still close gaps efficiently.

maybe there’s something i’m not seeing, but i didn’t mind temp shield being uncancellable and i don’t mind this either

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I’m torn on this. Would it be a good change to let DH cancel a fel rush to stop where they want? If not then why is it good for monks? Different classes can have different strengths though.

imagine basing pvp changes off of what people who dont even pvp think, instead of people who are top of the ladder and pvp every day. you dont even know the significance of cancel roll. people in the video dont even main monk and they say its bad for the game. Chunli the best WW in NA is saying hes not going to main ww anymore because of this change, how can you be so ignorant?

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Especially because fel rush has an ms tied to it now, if taken

who do you think is doing that? who doesn’t even pvp here?

explain how you feel about the xar’s thoughts on gpy and bad players if you’re really that sure those are the best qualifying traits for giving good feedback

who said that? you were asked to explain it and you’re just refusing to. you want community support for an idea you don’t want to help any member of the community understand?

yeah streamers who play this terrible videogame for a living can be kneejerked to say pruning bad macros good. shocker. what did you ask them? how many times did you use the word “skill” in their twitch chat to slant the question?

does drake think that?

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Thanks! It’s unfortunate players zakarm seem to regurgitate what their favourite you tubers say like Xaryu. It’s good to see some independent thinkers going against the grain

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Just wants to say the sky is falling

im not going to argue with people who have no idea what theyre talking about, im so disgusted right now