i hate warbreaker, i hate every talent in that row matter of fact, they are all just bad options and i miss in mop when colossus smash, a single target attack. idk just better design to me, warbreaker is clunky
maybe instead you can add more utility or cc like shockwave, or double charge, so we arent gutted again to have to pick from mobility or a cc like childrens version of wow
What is clunky or bad about an AoE Colossus smash? Its literally Colossus smash but objectively stronger.
because who asked for an aoe colossus smash, or to have all our abilities removed?
who asked for warriors top damage to be bleeds?
warriors were perfection in mop, they remove all of that, and now are slowly getting us back to that
War breaker is the talent emulating our Legion artifact ability which was actually quite nice.
The bleed is no longer our top damage its now a buff to our other spells. And we just got a good chunk of abilities back. Spell reflect baseline, Intervene, Challenging shout. It feels like youâre mad about a talent that objectively improves an ability and are channeling that into other grievances.
I Also think its weird to make us choose mobility or our only single target stun, but thats a different Issue.
idk, its like we are pretending its classic but we are nowhere near that level of class design (in a bad way), my whirlwind does like 100 damage, and the rest of my abilities are just filler waiting room for mortal strike it feels like. i just feel like a shorter cd single target colossus smash is better than an aoe warbreaker with a 45 sec cd or whatever it is, it also feels alot nicer to just hit one person im focusing instead of the rng fest of anybody could die.
While I understand youre frustrated, im not sure what youre upset about. It feels to me like youâre mad there is a change at all rather than a specific change.
I loved mop warrior too but that was 8 years ago. A lot has happened since then and the game is a different beast in a lot of ways. They cant just copy and paste it.
I donât know what to say but from what youâre saying, maybe warrior isnât for you anymore. I hope you find what youâre looking for.
This. There was actually a very loud outcry to keep artifact abilities, including Warbreaker, from Legion. Fury warriors continue to mourn the loss of Odynâs Fury. Speaking of which if any of yaâll also play Fury, the weekly memorial for OF has been moved to Saturday, hope to see you there.
This might be the case for a lot of these posts recently. Might be time for some players to look into other classes that are available.
There is a lot of other classes too choose from.
Remember they canât keep everything the same. With each expansion they need to change something, may not be your best interest but other players are obviously raising the concern they want a change of ways for warriors.
Youâll have to adapt and change, otherwise your wish of everything being the same and consistent is going to be stressful for you more than anyone else.
The word âclunkyâ has lost all meaning. RIP.
Dunno if you saw it but Keladan on Skyhold posted a pretty good meme on this a week or two ago, imma have to find that Gem.
Is it the âYou donât need OF we have DR at homeâ?
YEP
I loved it
I got you my man 
Itâs probably better to advocate for a more competitive talent row than focus on Warbreaker. You also donât have to talent Warbreaker if you want to have single target CS.
Thanks homie, brings a tear to my eye.
I donât understand why someone would dislike warbreaker but enjoy colossus smash. Even though they are the same. Only one applies it to all mobs and not just one.
Speaking of âmaybe the class/spec isnât for you anymoreâ, I finally took a good hard look at what Enh was turning into after time on the beta/PTR and it dawned on me that as much as I like the aesthetic, I really donât like the spec. It just doesnât have what I enjoy.
So I dabbled around and found I enjoyed War. Arms or Fury, I like them both. I donât care much for how tuning ends up, I can always roll a meta M+ alt for my group if we want to push further, but I just happen to like War.
Weâll see if it lasts, but I definitely feel more comfortable going in knowing Iâm playing something I like over something I desperately want to like.
i dont pve
Fair enough, then in that case, if you are in a PVP situation, this can be helpful when youâre in BG and need to apply Deepwounds/Shatter armor to large groups of people.
I enjoy my PVP and using this ability against hunter pets, or other class pets that just bunch around you is helpful, or when I assault flag areas with large amount of players.
Itâs really not a bad talent, and as others have mentioned, if you donât like it, feel free to use other ones like Cleave or Collateral Damage. This game has a lot of AoE situations, and this talent row is specifically designed for AoE purposes whether it be PVE or PVP.
I completely agree, this is the perfect talent for you to do the following combo:
Cast Avatar w/Heroic leap into a group of enemy players > Warbreaker > Blade storm and the amount of damage is great, whether it be single target or multi-target.
Best part, it requires no targeting, has a 8 yard range, and you donât even have to be facing your target in order to apply it. What that means, is if you are in the middle of turning around to face them (e.g. rogue gank attempt) you can pop it without the concern of your strike being able to be dodged or parried, and start doing your damage with the debuff already applied.
If anything, this is better than Colossus Smash. I understand your frustrations that warriors are not MoP status but this talent is not as bad as you are trying to portray it to be.
CD was what gave arms a strong niche throughout the expansion and had some sniping to it. Could really abuse it if you knew what you were doing. Dead now though.
Theyâre identical. But one is aoe. Thatâs it.
Legion artifact. Some people liked legion a lot.
You understand bfa was not the first time that happened, right. And itâs gone now anyway.
Subjective.
Classic class design was bloody awful.