someone datamined code for 4 new allied races, somewhere soon after SL came out. we’re getting more at some point unless they completely scrapped the idea
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Well, a race change implies racials, limited class selection, so I agree with you. Doesn’t mean the toy needs a ridiculously low duration with a ridiculously high cooldown.
Toys are meant to be used to have fun. Imagine if you could only play WoW for five minutes and then had to wait an hour to play for another five minutes.
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I mean the same reason our living mounts that were born and raised in mortal world are able to go to sl? So how would you dictate and decide that one goes horde or alliance considering both horde and alliance players go there AND even the kyrians can retain their memories. Another neutral race wouldn’t think 5 of them makes much sense either.
I remember seeing that all over youtube too the datamind allied races for SL showing Kyrian, nightfae and the other two and showing that they have racials and are all ready to go to be allied races. But yeh it looks like that scrapped the idea maybe.
never know, if they were planning on adding them as allied races it likely wouldn’t happen until the end of the expansion anyway, like they did with nightborne/void elves and the others
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I really don’t understand why you felt the need for an analogy that has no bearing at all on the issue… Your taking a tiny little piece of the game and then comparing that to playtime. They don’t go hand in hand. They aren’t comparable. Why do people always need to do this analogy stuff. I mean that’s just the way that toys have always been in wow, I guess I don’t see a need to complain about it.
Toys have been altered in WoW before, cooldowns changed and what not.
Personally? I don’t see the point in why these appearance changing toys have such ridiculously short duration and long cooldowns. You don’t really get any time to enjoy the effect at all.
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They said the same thing for Mechagnomes goign to alliance even though horde players helped them too. And the Kyrian retaining their memories proves the laws and rules of the Shadowlands can change, if they can now have the choice to keep their memories, then they can have the choice to leave too. And your mount thing about our mounts going into the afterlife with us is another flaw in blizz’s lore. They don’t include mounts and creatures like that in the lore do they. I can leave the SL with my 10 SL mounts (creature) but techinically nothing can leave the Shadowlands that is already from the SL. Flaws everywhere this expan in the lore.
And you’re just making up lore as to why our mounts can go SL and why SL creature mounts can leave SL. Blizz haven’t written anything in the lore regarding this sissue. You’re just assuming what you’re saying.
That was the whole point of the Allied Race system, as originally pitched: to give us those low effort options to greatly expand our options. I’m still a fan of giving us races (and “subraces”) that are already allied with our factions and have been for years over giving us the new, boring stuff.
Lol you must not read as you play. Lore wise it was explained why for the maw. Which you clearly must have mistaken for the entirety of SL.
The Vulpera were nothing like what we had before. (please don’t say goblin skeleton because they look nothing like goblins) I hate it when people say they use the same skeleton, yes they do use the same skel but it’s CLEARLY not just a recolour like the dark iron dwarves or lightforged dra…
What has not being able to use mounts in the maw got to do with all the creature fro mthe SL that are mounts being able to freely pass through the world of the living whenever they want but the 4 races can’t. Seriously are you reading someone else comments? What you’re saying has nothing to do with what I’m talking about. Seriously why are you going on about mounting up in the maw??? You might as well as be talking about murlocs in goldshire since they have nothing to do with what I’m talking about either. Jesus…
Also you can mount up in the maw now. So rules change again, so let the 4 races leave SL since they change rules none stop.
Seems like it’s changed. Those low-effort options are now being baked into the playable races, rather than made into their own Allied Races.
Meanwhile with the Zandalari, Kul Tirans, and Vulpera, we have precedent for Allied Races being more than low effort additions.
I’d argue the times of Allied Races being low-effort additions is over. It was feedback Blizzard got from BfA.
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Vulpera and Zandalari and Kul Tirans were the exceptions to the rule. Give me more reskins. I want Dragonmaw Orcs, Fel Orcs, Wildhammer Dwarves, Frost Dwarves, Earthen, Taunka, Alterac Humans, Arathi Humans, Leper Gnomes, Dark Trolls, Forest Trolls and so on and so forth. Flesh out the options to make the world more cognitively coherent.
Customizations added to Dwarves.
Customizations added to Trolls.
You know what if you put away the lore for abit this expan needs something really big and good added to make people come back and I think these 4 allied races would do it. Just look at how many players want and are obsessed with new cosmetics, most forum threads are about cosmetics. These people would go nuts for new races. If you think adding a few customizations for a few allied races will bring people back to the game, imagine how many would come back for new races altogether.
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They are spirits we can’t see them or feel them until we die and become spirits ourselves. Take Ben Hollow part of Kyrian covenant quest line. Shadowlands is a different realm from our mortal world.
Poor Ben, I hope we save him from the maw, he didn’t deserve it.
Painting a Bronzebeard does not a Wildhammer make. Ditto for tinted jungle trolls.
maybe at the end of the expansion then, after the jailer is dealt with and it could possible make a grain of sense for them to become adventurers.
I’m still skeptical, but hey, if I’m wrong that’s fine too.
Yes I’ve done that Kyrian campaign quest, but the lore and rules were already broken since before the lich king crown broke the living could never EVER EVER go into the Shadowlands. So it only makes sense that the dead can poor forth into the living world regardless of what those spirits, dead or creatures are. They could easily write that stuff into lore. It never really made sense that it doesn’t do vice versa since the lores broken with the living going into the SL. With the Kyrian able to cross freely into the world of living as spirits means it makes more sense for them to be able to go to land of the living easier than the living going to the SL after the LK crown broke. I don’t get why people are ignoring the fact that alot of this lore isn’t adding up and only see whats in front of them and not elsewhere.