Least then the trade and other chat channels wont be clogged with gold buying GDKP this and GDKP that and people may actually post items to sell again…
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People complain about bots and people buying gold (3rd party or token).
But then you suggest to ban GDKPs & boosts, the main reason people buy gold, and you get screeched at into oblivion.
Dailies and professions supply plenty of gold to raid with.
There is no reason to buy gold other than GDKPs and boosting so just ban them.
And you think LFD creates toxic players? Go run some GDKPs without much gold or gear and see how “friendly & social” that community is.
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They won’t do that because GDKP’s are not against the rules. Selling boosts isn’t either, however it’s clear they want to kill off boosting.
How do you tell the difference between a legit GDKP or a “gold buying GDKP” as you put it? I don’t really trust this community enough to police itself, and I don’t trust Blizzard’s automated report/ban systems either so I would have to say no to GDKPs being on a report list.
A better idea is for you to ignore the people advertising them, that way you don’t have to see it or let it ruin your experience.
zzz gdkps don’t exist because gold buying exists.
Sure people buy gold for gdkps, just as people buy gold for epic flying, and the soon to be mammoth and chopper mounts, or consumables and enchants, or boosting a profession via buying mats from the AH.
Gold buying has existed longer than gdkps have, and will exist if gdkps are removed.
You’re just mad you can’t pull from a community of bored raiders to come and carry you through braindead content for easy loot anymore, and now have to contribute in some capacity.
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Remember when I said people would screech if you suggest to ban it? Here’s one now.
The ironically named Apathy is proving my point about GDKPs having a lot of immature dbags in them too.
Thanks bud. 
I used to run with a group that hosted GDKPs because my guild was only doing Naxx and I like to raid. Saying the majority of bought gold doesn’t go into GDKPs and similar carry runs/pvp boosts is like saying millionaires don’t use tax loopholes, lol.
Raid leader kept track of repeat/big buyers and some of these guys were dropping 10k+ gold a week, in vanilla. They never hid the fact they bought gold.
People will complain about Blizz selling a mount, meanwhile people like you defend literal pay to win pug runs. 
GDKPs dominate the pug world and push people to buy gold. They do nothing except exploit a, much bigger than you think, part of the Classic community. There’s no reason to defend or keep them around outside of greed.
GDKPs are legit business.
People complaining about GDKPs in at this point are envious bitter toxic waste.
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There is reason to keep them around. The vary reason people play the game its fun.
Blizzards classic lead dev even agreed with the fact GDKPS are fun and feels great to be rewarded even if you don’t get loot for having fun in the game raiding.
Your issue of buying gold is not GDKPS issue that is the issue of buying gold. IF you don’t like people buying gold enforce that. This is also directly from the lead devs mouth blizzard has failed at stoping gold buying and that is on them. They need to enforce gold buying more GDKPS are not the issue and GDKPS are legal and the plan is to keep it that way at the time of his interview.
GDKPS have in fact increased the amount of raids going on that pug, you can see that via stats quite easy. Even no ironforge tracks less raider raiding weeky we in fact see far more raids advertised as unlike any other raid style GDKPS are quite happy to get new blood into the raids as it means new gold for the items otherwise wasted.
GDKPS are a quite healthy part of the pug community that is the best loot rule option for pugs that rewards not only those that get loot but those that don’t get loot. While keeping people in the raid till the end and rewarding those that pull there wieght ie have consumes are are in fact aiming for the top dps slots among other things. This results in vastly cleaner runs on avg than any other loot system for pugs.
Gold buying is NOT the fault of GDKPS blizzard themselves have agreed with this point as per there lead dev. Gold buying has existed long before GDKPS and has existed long AFTER gdkps. In fact removing loot master and by extension GDKPS as they commonly existed did exactly NOTHING to reduce gold buying or selling of services and gear for gold. Retail has ticket runs where you get any loot that can be traded to you. Retail has boosts just the same. Killing GDKP would have exactly NO positive effect on the amount of gold being bought. In fact its more likly to INCREASE the gold being bought as you would have to buy MORE gold for ticket runs or boosts to get the item you want when you cant just bid for said item when it drops. This RAISES the prices of things and in turn makes it MORE profitable for those doing the runs. GDKP in fact is HELPING keep gold prices down by keeping item prices down making gold have higher value and less needing to be bought/spread out for a given item. This helps to reduce the effect of inflation. Furthermore without GDKPS spreading the gold around you have increased the amount of gold needed to be gotten by other means as “carrys” are no longer getting a fair share as more often than not ticket runs or otherwise the host and a small group keep the gold by giving only a small payout to “carries” not a fair payout as the total pool is kept secret. This further increases amount of scams going on.
In short if you want to fix gold buying you need to target and fix gold buying. Targeting GDKPS is the exact definition of the WRONG target. You are in fact making gold buying WORSE by making it harder to spend gold. As there will always be a way buy loot, as its LEGAL to trade gold for services always will be. As such there will always be a way to get items for gold so long as players have ANY control over loot. Removing all player control over loot is NOT a good answer. As such making it harder to buy items only makes the prices higher and as such reduces the value of gold via lower buying power. This means for those NOT buying gold your gold is less valuable as inflation takes off via more gold being spread around to those selling services.
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I honestly read nothing that you posted wow huge wall of text. But i probly agree with you
Which is fine. Not really a big deal if any fourm user reads it. Its there if blizzard dose pick to read it they tend to look at “well written posts” so they don’t mind reading longer ones if there truly planning a change. Thou the odds of blizzard reading the fourm is near 0.
While if someone wants to counter it reading it is a fundamental thing they would have to do first.
I did put a in short at the bottom thou.
And i was right I agree with you, know can I please have some milk
GDKPS are the best.
Just ban people who buys gold it’s simple that’s like 99% of wow player base.
Or add the token if there not going to so at least it’s a fair ballpark for those that won’t risk buying.
Thou personally I’d like them to ban the gold sellers/buyers.
Uhm, that requires playing the game. Please be more thoughtful about your posts in the future. The world is watching.
Ironic really that you bring up my name and call me a dbag then proceed to be a dbag.
Really cool you addressed literally 0 of my points.
Gdkps will exist if gold buying does not exist. It’s literally as simple as that. Cope more.
Mike Ybarra, President of Blizzard, sells boosts and carries.
The WoW Token is used to buy carries.
Of course executive leads and their cronies will say carry runs are good.
I am not delusional to think anything will ever be done to get rid of carry runs. But similar to your point about “In case Blizzard reads” Here’s my two cents.
GDKPs and carry runs will exist without gold buying but their existence makes gold buying worse. You buy a bunch of gold because you don’t care about your account and want easy gear.
People now have a way to get large sums of gold without directly buying it. Basically legal money laundering.
I also dislike carry runs and the majority of people who run GDKPs are entitled, greedy, & abusive to say the least without triggering the profanity filter.
Pure buyers don’t get payouts. People who don’t bid enough or spend enough and aren’t carries don’t get pay outs. It’s very easy to be subjective and unfair in these runs.to hoard more gold.
The answer to getting more people to run groups isn’t to push them into a system that supports buying gold.
Ulduar and TOC loot changes are happening to support rerunning them. There are healthier ways to encourage alt runs and pugs than just telling your players to become pay pigs.
You think people are renting houses in record numbers because they prefer it? Don’t confuse exploitation of a system with enjoyment of a system.
I want to be able to report gnomish death knights.
You got mad first. By your Twitter rules of discussion I win right? 
What?
I stand by what I stated, you’re just mad that it’s harder for you to get hard carried through content without providing anything.
You want gear? Pay up.
Don’t like it? That sucks, go make your own raids then.
Fact: Removing gdkps does not remove gold buying. It’s just a projection of cope by players who are too used to abusing other players for personal gain. With gdkps, it’s a fair field now. Sucks that your power trip is gone.