Zahir this is literally the subject of my honors thesis, that I got honors on.
You’re wrong my dude.
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Check for yourself, you are wrong, granadar ended in 1492, it ceased to exist as an independent kingdom and was integrated.
The Emirate of Granada ended 1492, the Kingdom of Granada that had a Royal Audience (WITH MORISCO NOBILITY INTACT, many of whom had Mudéjar family who also remained!) existed as such until 1608 with the total Expulsion of all Muslims and Moriscos (except those who finesses permission to go to the colonies, wink wink).
Royal Audiences has jurisdictional autonomy and were often inclusive of local Indigenous Elites under the Hapsburgs of the Spanish Empire.
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" It ended with the defeat of Granada and its annexation by Castile, ending all Islamic rule on the Iberian peninsula in 1491/1492"
History of the Reign of Ferdinand and Isabella, the Catholic, a really good book, from Prescott, William H., i recommend it to you.
The Muslims weren’t expelled in 1492, they were expelled 1608 , this is literally basic history.
The end of Muslim Emirates/Caliphates/Taifas in 1492 does not mean all Muslims and their families were stripped of power and deported.
This is insane. A cursory Google search would even demonstrate this.
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its not about the expellment, its about granada…my point is only about Granada, not the exilement of all muslims.
Basic to someone as smart as you hun. But the fact that you studied it this extensively and he still insists you’re wrong is mind boggling
I was only talking about Granada, all the time, he keeps coming with all the Muslims, I about the iribian peninsula! This is the real madness, why the jumps in time? I was talking about the annexation of Granada, he was talking about the exile, it’s as if two sides were talking about completely different THINGS.
It seems his point was that in the case of the Spanish and that particular conflict, the defeated and annexed enemy was allowed to exist for more than a century on land the victors claimed. Before eventually being expelled.
The argument about Victors allowing the Defeated to remain on the lands of the victors was the point. And the Spanish did allow it for about a century. From the annexation to the expelling.
Some argue the Alliance could have allowed the Orcs some land and some time, instead of concentration camps. Others say there is no precedent in Human history. But Baal was describing such a situation in Human history - where the victors allowed the losers to hold land the victors claimed, for a time.
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Yup. Because Alliance insists the only possible options where camps or genocide.
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They are if no other solutions are given.
I literally just gave a historical example.
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That’s too much for me to read through TBH.
Which you know will be ignored, discarded or claim to not count for Insert BS reason here
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Well at least you admit to being illiterate, one step above your peers!
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Thread should have ended here.
So is the husk of Teldrassil.
The only people still upset about Calia leading the Forsaken are just “Forsaken Snowflakes” players, theya re the ones who can’t move on like everybody else. Just accept that she’s the new leader now and deal with it.
We’ll stop talking about Teldrassil when something is done about it.
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I can read, it’s just exhausting to parse through.
Bless your heart.
Your wasting your time on someone who isn’t here to have discussion. They’re only here to try and browbeat people into subservience to his personal world views.
Why are you being rude to me? Toxic attitudes like this are what’s wrong with the forums
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