yeah it has, it got changed to a talent at one point, but even as far back as wrath there was a glyph for DnD that caused everything in it to slow.
happens on all sides, players used to watch Ion’s raid progress because they could count on any boss they got stuck on being nerfed, so the the true AOTC/CE was if you could get the content done before the devs got stuck and nerfed it.
happens in pvp too, if you ever wonder why your underperforming class gets majorly nerfed out of nowhere, its most likely because someone at blizz lost a fight to someone who mains said class.
We don’t need to discuss the history of every slow or get into details. Everyone knows how all of these work. Point is it’s just an overabundance at this point and doesn’t add anything meaningful to the game when every class is just mindlessly chucking out stronger and stronger slows. If it never changed and only got worse I honestly wouldn’t really care that much. I’m just saying it IS dumb and could be dealt with IF Blizzard cared.
This just happened against a Frost DK in my solo shuffle, used Masters call it didn’t remove the slow and didn’t even apply the immune to slow then went on CD…yea there is a major bug to Masters call.
Sure, in the past. That’s why I said there was a time that was happening to some degree, but even than it was more through player feedback then anything else.
I just don’t see, literally and figuratively, any devs playing the game. If anything, the game all to often gets balanced around the top, rather than the mid to bottom and that creates another set of issues.
Let’s see Rouge, DK, Lock, and Mage, which have the biggest slows. IDK if there are any more with higher slows, but those 4 are the main culprits for me waddling most games. To top it off, most of their slows are reapplied with ez, and some even refresh themselves. Slows and root spam is getting to a point where I’m losing my sanity, and I hate being forced to play gnome if I don’t want to sit roots a ton. I’m still gonna play my alts, but sitting roots and being slowed 24/7 is so annoying that I feel like slows should yk Dr.
All good. I just always expect more of people. Imagine thinking a pretty basic complaint was crying. If I was the only one, have at it… but I see people frustrated in bgs and arena all the time.
This is such a general statement about the health of the game. Slows and mobility in general are absurd now. Even doing low level dungeons you can’t even keep up with the tanks on some specs. Is that good for the game?
There is a massive difference between this expansion and DF relative to slows. There are a ton of new ones and substantially more slows that are over 50%.
Doesn’t even look like you’re playing much now, if at all, so why are you even commenting? So you have challenger so far in TWW… but you haven’t played in two years?
This was about locks and spriest sitting middle of map turreting, is why I said that.
I only hit level 80 Monday, then did a bunch of arena to acquire conquest.
I think I have 10 hours total so far in the xpac, if that.
As for slows, feels relatively the same as WoW always has.
However, I will say the priest one is pretty crazy but not game breaking or anything.
That’s purely anecdotal though, in the few bgs I’ve recently done I haven’t seen anyone say word one.
I mentioned earlier; people are always complaining about something unfair in the state of WoW.
They already nerfed quite a bit of cc, don’t see much of a reason to nerf this aspect of it.
PvP for this game is a group activity and it seems people have tools to cover the others’ weaknesses still so don’t see much of a problem.
We can just look at the actual abilities. There are more. A lot more.
Do blitz man. That’s the new bracket.
I have stated this multiple times in this thread. It’s not about fair or unfair. The game is unfun with all the slows. This has nothing todo with what I’m playing. It’s literally just unfun.
I haven’t had to do anything different than what I always have done with monk, maybe it’s because I am a monk.
I know I lost skyreach and I don’t have anything close to making up that loss, but I still am able to stick on my targets and dip out when I need to.
There may be more of a quantity, but I’m not seeing an overall change to the gameplay so far.
So so far you have said you have barely played at all and you have only played your monk.
This is a pointless discussion. There are more slows now, Of those slows, a lot of the ones that were added are over 50%. To that, more talents were added to make existing slows… slow more. ALSO, more slows have been added that are a part of your normal rotation.
We don’t need to keep adding MORE slows and MORE immunities and MORE gap closers and so on. This is just about the game being fun or not fun. If you think it’s no different in your very limited play… then great, but just look at the responses in the thread. Clearly something is off with the game now.
I’m saying the general direction of the game is bad. We are getting too much of everything and the game is getting even more homogenized. One part of that are the slows and I think they are most egregious of all of the ability/talent creeps we have.