Can we just skip 9.3 I think at this point people just want a new expansion

[Shalandis-kargath]

@Nowk-stormrage

The whole 2 year expansion cycle argument doesnt stand when considering all the internal issues the company had plus covid

Maybe with the “toxic” leaders gone. The creative and productive employees may actually be able to do their work.

The covid excuse sucks. I had to work from home with a smaller team, and we turned out work at a much more efficient pace.

[Gramdevon-wyrmrest-accord]

Honestly I think Shadowlands just has too many core issues for it to be truly “good.” The upcoming changes in 9.1.5 are undoubtedly improvements, but there’s still the core issues of borrowed power, the open world being less utilized than it should be, and the story just being a trainwreck from day 1.

I don’t think anyone who wants us out of Shadowlands wants them to rush 10.0, but rather they’d prefer a WoD-Legion thing where they drop the final patch in favor of making the next expansion better.

Is that the right call? Hard to say, Legion may very well have been a fluke or it could be that Blizz really did go all-in on it and just learned the wrong lessons from its success.

[Tonietta-malganis]

I find it endearing that you think we’ll have a 9.3 in the first place.

[Lightir-frostmourne]

Yep this right here. Rushing to another expansion won’t do anything we’ll just have the same problems.

While I don’t expect there to be a 9.3 because there are/have been serious pacing issues this expansion, I expect a hella good 9.2 and 9.2.5 that have the same good changes that 9.1.5 currently has. If they do that then they might actually have a decent 10.0 and a player base that is starting to believe in them again.

[Cavemann-ravencrest]

@Gramdevon-wyrmrest-accord

Honestly I think Shadowlands just has too many core issues for it to be truly “good.” The upcoming changes in 9.1.5 are undoubtedly improvements, but there’s still the core issues of borrowed power, the open world being less utilized than it should be, and the story just being a trainwreck from day 1.

I don’t think anyone who wants us out of Shadowlands wants them to rush 10.0, but rather they’d prefer a WoD-Legion thing where they drop the final patch in favor of making the next expansion better.

Is that the right call? Hard to say, Legion may very well have been a fluke or it could be that Blizz really did go all-in on it and just learned the wrong lessons from its success.

Blizzard definitely took the wrong lesson from the popularity of the artifact power up mechanic.

From what I can tell, most people liked it because it felt so much like the old-style skill trees, but Blizzard appears to have concluded that people wanted to be able to progressively power up some gear and gave us the idiot neck piece mechanic in BfA.

They dialed that back a whole lot in Shadowlands, and turned it into an expendable resource you can use to buy base upgrades or a one faction’s vendor items. Not as nifty as the artifact upgrade tree, but better than the neck.

The current story isn’t engaging, and I keep expecting Sylvanus to stab the Jailer in the back and she keeps not doing it. I don’t expect her to do it because she was secretly GOOD or anything, I keep expecting her to do it precisely because she’s a nasty little self-serving weasel who really ought to be DONE with him by now.