Can we have more privacy in forums to feel more safe?

[Malgorok-zuljin]

@Madelke-mannoroth

we would have more discussion regarding the topic at hand

We have talked about it, the OP and you just seem to coincidentally ignore anything that shows flaws with it

[Varidra-shadow-council]

Need me to spread some around for ya?

[Nelfas-azshara]

fake reporting is a thing. around 10 people keeps lurking here like vultures and fake flagging anything they do not like.

@Jaesears-dalaran

You called me a liar

i never said that.

@Madelke-mannoroth

i find Nelfas to be a very kind poster.

@Akston-area-52

This is the 3rd thread on this topic by the same person, without the OP ever explaining why the current system is lacking.

It is actually explained very well in first post, isn’t?

@Akston-area-52

I will assume any further posts are trolling.

@Akston-area-52

I will assume

it is up to you.

@Malgorok-zuljin

We have talked about it,

does not look like that. It was like: we attacked OP for his opinion, because x reasons, and if OP tried to discuss and show disagrement , we flagged his posts because, our “rules” applies only for OP not us.

[Jalanili-moon-guard]

@Panzershock-illidan

Because he never explains anything.

Here’s the (current) map for their arguments. Note that this shifts over time either when they get bored or it gets to be so obvious that they’re spam-trolling that even they recognize that they need to switch it up a little:

• We should have anonymous posting on the forums.
• Why?
• Because if you’re anonymous you’re safe from harassment because no one knows who you are.
• How does that provide protection from harassment?
• No one can look up your armory or your other posts so they will be polite and nice.
• That’s not how human nature works. People will be more ugly to each other if there is no accountability by way of the social consequences of gaining a reputation for trolling, harassing and being awful to people.
• No everyone will be perfect and nice and the sky will rain with candy.
• So all of the trolling and harassment that we have already with the anonymity that we already have, that’s going to go away…somehow?
• Yes.
• How?
• Because everyone will be anonymous and will be polite and respectful to each other.
• You can’t back up an assertion with the assertion itself. What kind of information do you have that makes you think that will be the case?
• I think you’re right, person from two posts ago, everyone will be polite and respectful and also your hair smells like sunshine.
• So you’re just going to avoid the question?
• Anonymous posting is best for the forums so that no one can harass each other.
• I agree with what you said just now, that would be best.

I swear it’s like trying to fill a bucket with dry sand with a rake. I can totally see why this topic needed to be allowed to keep going

[Varidra-shadow-council]

@Madelke-mannoroth

this is one of the issues that anonymous posting would rectify: people ignoring the actual topic of the thread to post negativity about the person that posted the topic.

No it wouldn’t, it would only cause it to be worse. Just think about amount of people who already think that you and OP are the same person. And that’s even with Vrak saying otherwise. Now let’s put anonymous posting. No one would get a post for civil conversation going. Because it would almost certainly degrade into everyone accusing everyone of being someone else. Or even worse. You’re solution isn’t a solution. It’s just a way to cause more chaos.

[Malgorok-zuljin]

@Nelfas-azshara

does not look like that.

@Malgorok-zuljin

you just seem to coincidentally ignore anything that shows flaws with it

Yea exactly like that, thanks for the example

[Mochîî-stormrage]

I Disagree with hiding armoury or anonymous posting.

[Nelfas-azshara]

@Jalanili-moon-guard

No one can look up your armory or your other posts so they will be polite and nice.

if noone can look up for your armory, track other characters, then their harassment has no meaning. because they do not know who my character is, - i am.

@Jalanili-moon-guard

Here’s the (current) map for their arguments.

thank you that’s not exactly like this.

Could you do now a short summary about those who are against, would be fair.

[Varidra-shadow-council]

@Nelfas-azshara

fake reporting is a thing. around 10 people keeps lurking here like vultures and fake flagging anything they do not like.

Yep, and being anonymous will not stop that. It would only exasperate it. How in your mind does being anonymous stop that from happening?

[Malgorok-zuljin]

@Nelfas-azshara

Could you do now a short summary about those who are against, would be fair.

The fact its been proven to make environments much more hostile and toxic when full anonymity is given

The fact you can just classic character post if you don’t want people to see your armory exists for w/e weird reason

[Nelfas-azshara]

@Mochîî-stormrage

I Disagree with hiding armoury or anonymous posting.

we already have option to set armory private , but it is not fully utilized to fully hide it.

[Jaesears-dalaran]

@Nelfas-azshara

i never said that.

Here is just one of the times you said I’m lying. The rest were conveniently deleted with the other threads.

@Nelfas-azshara

People tend to lie and make up stories out of thin air. I doubt anything happened at all with your story to be honest. That’s my personal opinion.

[Mochîî-stormrage]

I don’t understand why it even can be private in the first place.

[Kyrithiel-steamwheedle-cartel]

Not to mention that there have been many, many posts explaining that flagged posts do not automatically get actioned. I’ve had some of my own posts flagged and then restored several times.

The only reason to worry about your posts being flagged is because there’s something in them which mods will determine as breaking the forum code of conduct. And then, the problem is what IT experts refer to as PEBCAK.

[Varidra-shadow-council]

@Nelfas-azshara

if noone can look up for your armory, track other characters, then their harassment has no meaning. because they do not know who my character is, - i am.

Ohh, you would still be harassed. Actual harassment. People will have the ability to pretend to be anyone from the game. Say horrible things that you did or didn’t do. And we as a community would have no way to prove or disprove those comments. Because hey. We are anonymous.

[Nelfas-azshara]

@Malgorok-zuljin

The fact you can just classic character post if you don’t want people to see your armory exists for w/e weird reason

thank you, but i do not play classic WoW. I did played when it was a current expansion. 2004.

@Jaesears-dalaran

Here is just one of the times you said I’m lying.

i did not mentioned your name specific, let’s be honest here? “People tend to lie”.

[Jaesears-dalaran]

@Nelfas-azshara

i did not mentioned your name specific

You literally replied to my post and said:

@Nelfas-azshara

I doubt anything happened at all with your story to be honest.

How is that not saying it directly to me? And “people tend to lie” includes you, as well. If you refuse to believe anyone, why should we believe you?

[Malgorok-zuljin]

@Nelfas-azshara

thank you, but i do not play classic WoW. I did played when it was a current expansion. 2004.

See remember where I said

@Malgorok-zuljin

you just seem to coincidentally ignore anything that shows flaws with it

and you just ignored

@Malgorok-zuljin

The fact its been proven to make environments much more hostile and toxic when full anonymity is given

Like come on man

[Nelfas-azshara]

@Varidra-shadow-council

Ohh, you would still be harassed.

Well i will be honest here. harassment only comes from those who keep checking players profile, their forums posts etc.

@Jaesears-dalaran

You literally replied to my post and said:

Can we relax? I never said you lied. While you making up things again.

@Jaesears-dalaran

How is that not saying it directly to me?

Yes, i have doubts about that, but it does not mean that you actually lied and it is not true.

[Iyami-wyrmrest-accord]

Anonymous posting is never, ever going to happen. Blizz is trending far more in favor of making it easier to hold people to the CoC, not less. This whole thing is a non-issue.