Can we give Void Elves the Green Eyes?

I don’t think they actually have ignored anything.

The only time the Light and Void have a disastrous effect is in the Chronicle book talking about the two, at that time only two, cosmic forces of Light and Void reacting with each other after a huge amount of time had passed as part of a creation story.

Whether we take that as the Titans perspective or not its a wholly different thing than what we see with Void Elves or LFD or Undead using powers that should be opposite to the one infusing them.

Plus we have priests who’ve been doing both for ages.

The only other times we see it mentioned its pain inducing but not explosive.

Neither of these would at all violate any lore… at all.

Void elves started with Blue Eyes. They didn’t get Purple in any format until everyone got new options.

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:thinking: I did not know that, but it tracks for Blizz to do things that make me :face_with_raised_eyebrow: Void elves having purple eyes makes a lot more sense than blue eyes. :dracthyr_shrug:

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It really does.

What’s also kinda a drag is that purple eyes, whether for void elves or blood/high elves, hasn’t actually been explained either.

There’s evidence for it being more arcane as well as void related. But nothing that explains what it actually is about.

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IIRC it was first used for some of the elven mages in Dal (was it a bug caused by the new customizations? I think it was specifically Wrath Dal where it showed up after a patch)

“Suggestion” Also interpretation. That’s a significant leap going from scholars coming to learn and new Void Elves being created. Void Elves are the result of an incident that was very nearly deadly, uncontrolled, and perhaps un-repeatable. I have not seen anything from Blizz to suggest it had been distilled down to a controlled process anyone could volunteer for anytime. If it was, why would it need to be elves? Why are there no void taurens? As far as I know (and as far as Blizz has explicitly said), all Void Elves were part of that original incident we all played through in their origin story. Most super-hero origin stories of the industrial accident trope are one-offs.

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If they were not making new void elves, then there could not be an experienced void elf teaching new void elves how to control the void. As old and new could not exist.
Yet its there in the rift.

Theyre clearly making new ones :stuck_out_tongue:

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This is like saying there isn’t always that one kid in school so far ahead of their peers that they tutor them. Nor does it address the possibility of a career change. Could’ve been those trainees were just umbral rangers deciding they want to go and be mages/warlocks.

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Aww, don’t be like that. You know what they say. Once you kiss a demon girl. No other will suffice. :wink:

To fulfill the request of an Elf player would be to rob them of their life’s great purpose: making requests.

I would think The Locus Walker could teach us all a thing or two. Also not all students from that original incident would learn at the same speed. When the artists involved were creating scenes for the types of things you might see in Telogrus Rift, that seems like a pretty basic one to include. I don’t see how that assumes anyone is attempting to recreate the near fatal uncontrolled incident that created the Void Elves.

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This remains an issue Blizzard needs to address. What happened to Umbric and his followers was decidedly a BAD THING. It was not the proper way to go about learning how to wield the void. The right way was the method Alleria underwent. There is no upside to going through what the Void Elves went through. There is no tangible benefit. They’re not even as powerful as Alleria, let alone stronger or anything, so their corrupted state isn’t even a trade off for power.

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Agreed. We are all conjecturing here. I just revisited Telogrus myself, and I can see why people get mixed messages. I see visiting scholars, and initiates in training, but no clear indication that one becomes the other. My own reasoning was that the original process was dangerous and uncontrolled and no sane person would volunteer for that. If Blizz has in mind that a new more-controlled process has been established, they should come out and say as much. Also address why we only have Void Elves and not Void-anything else?

  • IF the only Void Elves are the originals created when Alleria saved them from their folly, it makes sense because those were all followers of Umbric (and all Blood Elves iirc).
  • IF the process is now safe and repeatable, why restrict it to elves?

Until we hear more, my conjecture is that visiting scholars can study the void, but only those part of the original incident had their actual biology changed to become a separate race.

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Aye though Blizzard did come out and say it was just a bug. They added it to both parties because folk were so into it.

That said, the Void Elves were already getting a No Sclera Purple Eye option. The glitched purple were the ones with the sclera.

It wasn’t any of those things.

It wasn’t deadly it was interrupted. Its goal was to make them into void beings like the void touched Ethereals. It sure wasn’t uncontrolled, we interrupted the guy doing it.

And we already know that Blizzard said back then that they were figuring out how to remake it.

Since the Void Elves have significant numbers its very likely they intended the idea that new void elves could be made to be a standard. Especially when shown with the above mentioned scholars and wayfarers.

According to Locus-Walker, elves are uniquely able for it. He was surprised to find a race that could survive such things like the ethereals can.

This.

It would be an odd move for Blizzard if they were not making more. Especially when paired with the Wayfarers and Scholars. Blizzard is showing. Not telling.

Because the two things together mesh. The Wayfarers and scholars come from the SW portal. Talk to Locus-Walker and then occasionally head to the third island.

One has to assume Blizzard is just putting things around for no reason when they’ve never really been that way… Its their lack of putting in the “just around” things that has caused issues before.

Its likely that the Void Elves having access to both Alleria and Locus-Walker and the remains of the artifact that turned them would develop, as Blizzard suggested they’re doing, a mix of the options at their fingertips.

Plenty of void around the Rift to infuse and use. Their options for new members are rather easily open.

Further Clarity would of course be nice.

I do however think that looking at how Blizzard operates its rather clear their implication.

I have no emotional attachment to either concept, but would appreciate it if Blizz went on record (maybe a blue post, maybe some future live release) with a clear answer.

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Citation needed.

The only info we have on their numbers is that they’re an, ‘Elite Squad.’ That’s all. What we see in game is not necessarily reflective of anything.

The Locus-Walker was surprised how readily Alleria’s kin adapted to it. There’s nothing to suggest they alone can master the Void. Far from it, in fact.

Showing and not telling would be having a space in the Rift where a Wayfarer/Scholar has the void channeled into them, they get covered in void effect, and when it ends there’s a Void Elf standing there.

Alternatively if the speculated second generation of Void Elves do not look like the first, then showing, not telling, would be to have some of them on that one island alongside the void-looking elves, learning from the instructor at the same time. Even that would be a little iffy, honestly. We’d need something along the lines of natural-skinned elves using the racials to really make it conclusive.

In other words, what Blizzard is showing us, isn’t telling us anything about them expanding their numbers. That there are High/Blood Elves out there interested in studying the void is all we’ve been shown with the presence of the Wayfarers and Scholars in Telogrus. Anything further is speculation.

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Having a void elf instructor teaching void elf initiates does not indicate one learning faster than the others.

By definition, an initiate is someone who is new.
You cannot have new void elves if all void elves were made at the same time.
Or else every void elf npc at the rift would be an initiate. But theyre not. Youve got rangers and wardens and instructors and researchers.

They were clearly not transformed at the same time :stuck_out_tongue:

Possibly Blizz left it vague because they haven’t decided where they’re going with the whole Void Elf thing. Perhaps they wanted to keep their options open.

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Oh nooooo! Horde gets jewel Dwarfs, Ally gets Void Dwarves…just kidding.

No, because the Ren’dorei absorbed void, and that cancelled out the fel. Also, you can now look like Sin’dorei in every other way, so enough is enough traitorous elf.

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I mean… id take it over earthen

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