Just saying, never heard of Amazon having problems with whatever their technology is to handle all the traffic they get. Black Friday and Cyber Monday also exist and I’ve never heard of any issues with them probably getting hundreds of millions of orders all across the world for orders.
Has anyone told Blizzard Amazon exists?
I don’t think Blizzard should take any video game advice from Amazon.
A website and a game use vary different amounts of processing power. Also type of power needed at that.
Also Amazon dosent have issues since there site is broken up into small sites. Each small site only handles a set area. This is also allows them to target adds on the site and makes shipping info more accurate on approxations.
This highly cuts down on the power needed to run the sites as far less traffic than you think.
Wow also dose this each realm is one of these small sites. Prob is they can’t break them up smaller, you can’t have some people isolated on another server but on the same realm. That would be a connected realm which is a solution blizzard knows about and has used in the past but publicly made the statment is not possible to do in classic for what ever reason.
I didn’t play it but wasn’t New World pretty broken?
Yup. Queues were just about as bad at the launch of New World as they are currently in WoW.
New World went from queue to dead. Perfect.
Sure you could. You could have a separate server running for each continent, and have the players hop over to that server when they move continent. Thats how a lot of games do it actually.
You could, wow classic can’t. Big diff.
Those games are Made for that from the start. Changing a game to do that is a massively different thing than making something do that from the ground up. In fact in many cases such large changes can result in a harder time than making something from the ground up.
That is not possible within the budget of classic for sure and as such not an option. Hell even mentioned about connected realms which is in effect doing that, just in a diff way. Not happening for classic as the work to do it would be to much hense blizzards public statment.
The nature of data transfer between client and server in a secure MMO is multiplicative in nature and scales exponentially as more and more data has to be communicated. In engineering terms, it’s an n² problem.
Take these WG battles for example: 120vs120 people clash mid, if each of those players performs an action, that’s 14,400 events that must be processed serially compared to 1,600 actions in a 40vs40 battle. Exponentially scaling problem.
Except blizzard already have this technology, with sharding in retail. It just needs to be adapted for classic
Nitpick, its n^2 not n2, and its quadratic, not exponential.
If you think Blizzard is bad, you have never had to deal with amazon’s game department or customer service. thrust me Blizzard is the gold standard against amazons gaming department, you truly do not want that.
And?
As said adding or changing somethign of such a massive scale is massively different than doing it in the first place.
Budget is a vary real thing and the devs not having the budget to do it makes it not possible.
Yes blizzard has the tech and knows about it but publicly stated with that knowledge it’s not possible as such it’s not possible.
Amazon is the industry leader in web services… How their games run is strictly on how the devs developed it. Only facebook might have more experience hosting than amazon, maybe.
Well you said they cant do it, and I said yes they can, and here’s how, then you shifted the goalposts and said “but theyd have to make the technology and change the game” to which I said that they already have the tech, they just need to apply it, to which you shifted the goalposts again, saying “but that costs manhours to do” to which I will concede, youre right, blizzard is a small indie company, they cant afford the devs for that.
This guy never heard about the dead MMO by amazon called New World… who couldn’t handle the traffic to their own game.
I haven’t shifted the goalposts at all.
Blizzards offical public statment is they can’t do it. This exactly matches my statment and my statment has not changed at all from the start.
The reason for that statment is unknown. As I said from the first post. You are saying they can when it is not possible this is the offical answer.
I have given reasons on why it’s likly not possible which includes having to do quite a bit of work and not having the budget this all falls exactly in line with my first statment and never moving the goal post ever. The goal post you are trying to hit is showing blizzard offical statment is incorrect without question. You haven’t come close to that yet so no need to move them at all. Which is also impossible for you to do as you do not know exactly why they said it’s not possible. Without that info and info of the code to show it’s wrong can’t correct it.
As such there statment is irrefutable regardless if correct or not as that is what they are going to act on.
Oops, not a nitrogen problem.
Not possible isnt the same as not feasible. It is possible, blizzard have deemed it not feasible, which is itself a spit in the face of their playerbase, saying “our quarterly profit margins are more important than your enjoyment and experience of our service”
No to be exact the wording they did use is impossible. They have deemed it impossible.
Ie not possible. That is directly from there blue post.
Claiming they mean something else than what they directly said in there pr ready highly reviewed post is not a good way to go.
Something being non feasible to the point of not possible dose meet the definition of impossible. As it is impossible for the devs to make the shareholders agree to waste money on what is infeasible, it is not in there power.
Saying there margins are more important then your enjoyment is not spitting is a customers face. It’s exactly what is expected from a company. A customer expecting otherwise is the party being unreasonable. Everything has a limit. Blizzard did provide a fix transfers. They did not spilt in our faces and say your screwed giving no help. They gave a way out, which costed them the least but was a viable fix. you might not like it but non the less they did and gave a clear answer that nothing more can be done.