Jesus. It can’t be this bad at launch though…
Can it?
There really isn’t any reason for them not to give us some unlayered servers, it would appease both sides of the argument and making more people happy would make more people stay sub’d, get sub’d, and stay sub’d longer. Where did this all or nothing idea for server tech come from anyways?
I’m pretty sure there are a couple devs, techs, and gms that would enjoy working on an unlayered server more than the layered ones, and vice versa. So it would also give the employees more options as well as the players.
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But then we hear from the anti layer people is nothing but whaa I can’t play, im in a 3 hour que do somehting blizzard your game sucks WHAAAAA
good suggestion op
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They’ve already added an internal cooldown to layer hopping which helps address A, B, and some of D.
The weird players/mobs phasing in and out thing is a bug that, if it hasn’t been fixed by now, should be fixed soon.
However did we survive all those years without layering? Oh wait, the tourists left and the numbers leveled out. Has happened in every iteration of wow and will continue to do
So. But this layering garbage is going to change the social dynamic on servers and really screw with the economy.
Retail wow has never been additional content for another vastly more game. Layering isn’t for normal tourists, it is for the 500% additional tourists that we are getting due to the game being free content for retail.
And a good majority of the Cata or later crowd will run back to retail soon after… again, it will work itself out and all you’re really hurting is establishing community and irreparably damaging the economy
Does that work though? Because that will create scenarios where players cannot join their friends at times.
The more I think about layering the worse it gets sadly
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No. You’re welcome
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It’s only an issue if you’re doing open world stuff and jumping between multiple layers. If you group with your friends, you goto their layer and, even if you ungroup, you should stay in that layer until something happens to force a layer change (joining another group, logging, travelling continents). In those situations, enough time will elapse to let the cooldown lapse.
You know what would be even better? Separating the subscription between Classic and retail.
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While this sounds great I imagine to turn layering on and off would be a bit harder and more expensive and I’m unsure if they’d be willing to do that.
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What do you suggest then? Do you want hundreds of servers, or the queue that comes with having an additional 500% tourists clogging up our servers?
I agree that a separate sub would have been better, I even wanted a $60 buy in to even get the game. But Blizzard ruled that out. They have also stated they don’t want hundreds of dead servers (which would be even worse for the economy and community).
The only real alternative I see is that you try to pack ~3 million players on servers designed for only ~500k. Have fun with those queues.
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The only reasons I can see that blizzard wouldn’t do what the OP proposed is that A. They literally can’t, B. they are being greedy, C. sadism D. something else?
You have 4 friends, two join a group and change layers. Other two log in and join a group and change layers. Now they realize all 4 are online and drop group to reform with all 4, can they still change layers?
If that makes sense.
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They could change layers after the cooldown. That assumes that all 4 don’t wind up on the same layer anyways or that either group had to change layers in the first place and weren’t just on the same layer anyways.
At that point, I’d say pay more attention to your friend’s list if you think that’s going to be a constant issue.
That will be a constant problem though.
I can see a large number of people upset with that. Not a good solution.
If you know 1 of your friends is online, either you know them in person or you checked your friend’s list. If you’re looking at your friend’s list, do you just not see the other friends that are online?
In that situation, 1 or both groups has to be completely ignoring who’s online.
Now, if you say they’ll all in the same guild so they may not see them all at the same time, well the way blizzard had made it sound, if you’re in the same guild, layering is supposed to try and favorite guild members to the same layer.
I suggested this many times over varying threads.
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