We need more beast races or ogres. Send it!
Itâs bad enough to have a third dwarf race, we donât need a fifth elf race.
All of this could have easily been avoided if Blizzard wasnt so arrogant in thinking âherpaderp lets give alliance void elves theyâll love them herpadederpederpâ.
It would have forever ended the cries. Now we have another purple elf AND continued cries for high elves.
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Sure, we got three flavors of reskin dwarf. May as well have three flavors of reskin Blood elf.
But I get Red Orc Skin for Standard Orcs. Maybe Dragonmaw skin as well. And pure snow-white skin like Kargath or very pale like Blackhand from WoD.
We worked with these races.
We havenât really worked with this one. And when we have, its purely what can they gain. They are allied with no one but themselves.
How do you have a playable race that is its own faction? The handful that offer services arenât a good excuse either.
If only void elves were high elves, oh waitâŠ
The reason voids were added were so alliance could play belves and keep the lore relevant. Aka alleria getting void powers and the velves being cast out of the horde.
Careful your bias is showing. The lore is there, you are just ignoring it because you dont like them.
And what setup do high elves have? The last time they were involved was wc3 when they got wiped out.
They were side characters in wrath by just being npcs in dalaran.
Theyâve had little to no mention in what? 14 years?
There is no logical reason to add them.
Actually it does functionally make thalassian elves a neutral race. Especially since the new race menu also shows pandaren and dracthyr separately on each side instead of in the middle of the screen separately
No because while you can play one on each side, they arenât neutral to each other.
Have you not really played Alliance?
Theyâve always been a pretty common presence, far more than actual Alliance races like say, gnomes.
Vanilla you had a few questing locations with High Elves, plus Horde-side they were called out as very specifically being the bad elves.
TBC you have Allerian Stronghold showing, yup, HElves still around. It also throws a draenei at one of the settlements to encourage questing there (They did this to a few random spots in the game, including Swamp of Sorrows for obvious reasons but also that small NElf town on the east side of Ashenvale near the green dragon portal)
Wrath is obviously where they absolutely come into their own with the Silver Covenant. Them being around you all the time in Dalaran really did push âYup, high elves are an Alliance thingâ
Cata re-doubles some of the old Vanilla stuff, including flat out having Sylvy attack one of the random HElf settlements for helping the Alliance.
MoP goes absolutely hard on making the seperation between the two a major plot pint and part of the inciting incident for one of the best raids in the gameâs history (pro tip: donât prog Throne with a melee heavy group, Tortos was way harder than it should have been). Donât also forget that, up to this point? Blood Elves were basically ignored as far as the Horde went as well, to the point that Lorâthemar was the Hordeâs most irrelevant leader and it was a joke the BElf leaders just hung around doing nothing, until MoP comes aloong and absolutely shoots the BElf crew into stardom
They come back in Legion part of the whole elf war-crew trying to help Suramar, and Elisande of all people calls out High Elves as being distinct from Blood Elves in her big smack-down speech before the time lock
Meanwhile Void Elves have. Oh, wait, nothing.
Gnomes was a very bad pick. They had their own event back in wrath/cata. One of the most common played races as well seen frequently throughout wow history.
All your examples just further backup how much of side characters actual helfs are lol.
Theyâve never been any kind of forefront in wow. Random quests, a throw away rep faction. Like these are your examples of how prevelant and âpopularâ?
If you played voids at all, youâd know this wasnt true.
They are also recent, they dont have the history of high elves.
But then again, they are high elves.
Itâll never be enough for some people, I guess.
Void Elves (Renâdorei âChildren of the Voidâ) are Blood Elves (Sinâdorei) that were exiled from Silvermoon City for using void magic by the leaders of the Blood Elves (Sinâdorei). They are at the most basic level a customization option (and thats what they should have been added as, because there is nothing different about them that warrants being a âraceâ) for Blood Elves on the Alliance.
Blood Elves (Sinâdorei) are the exact same thing as High elves (QuelâDorei). The leader of Quelâthalas was High King Anasterian Sunstrider, a High Elf. When arthas and the scourge decimated the High Elf city of Quelâthalas and High King Anasterian Sunstrider died, his son Prince Kaelâthas Sunstrider, a High Elf, renamed the survivors of the scourge attack Blood Elves (SinâDorei or âChildren of bloodâ) as a reminder of those that were lost to the Arthas and the scourge. They ceased to be High Elves in name only. They were still genetically, culturally, and historically the same people they were before. They still live in Quelâthalas. The only thing that changed was the name they gave themselves. For all intents and purposes, they are the same High Elves they were before Arthas and the scourge attacked. Alleria Windrunner, Vareesa Windrunner, the members of the Silver Covenant simply do not call themselves SinâDorei and aligned themselves with the alliance, but again they are the same race. Nothing changed but the name.
I play Alliance. My main at the moment is a dwarf
Void Elves had one of the BfA Zandalar quests and then only really showed up in the Nazmir invasion. Thatâs it. Thatâs all the VElves have done.
Every Allied Race has been a throw-away rep faction, and throw away rep factions are what people want from allied races. The Magâhar? Sure it uses the textures from WoD but that name is from the old brown orcs in Nagrand. Zandalar trolls were just a rep faction from Vanilla and random questgivers in Wrath until MoP came along and gave them a unique model that wasnât just upscaled trolls. Worgen, one of the main Alliances races, are based on a bunch of random mobs that youâre unlikely to ever visit as Alliance (The Silverpine ones who transformed), but got turned into a whole group
Random rep factions is what allied races are, and what people want. Just look at what people want, they want stuff like ogres (who havenât been relevant to anything since Vanilla) or Vrykul (A random rep faction from Legion and enemy from Wrath we very much destroyed)
Iâm a high elf.
But they ARE high elves in that theyre always high on fel!
Almost like they were a legion race, not bfa.
Because they are allied. Not focal races.
Its almost like blizz hasnât added them for obvious reasons lol.
But even still, those races make more sense than helves. At least they wouldnât be a reskin addition.
One final point. What relevancy do helves have currently that would make them worth adding?
What reason other than âI wanna be a high elf!â?
Because there is nothing that would set them apart other than racials and minor cosmetics. Theyâd be yet another reskin of a faction with 2 representations.
Nightborne have got massive showing since Legion, Highmountain had a big bit recently with the tauren quest (plus Huln being one of the few characters who actually got a good showing in Shadowlands, and Ohnâahra tying into him). Meanwhile Alliance side, Dark Irons are pretty regular showings, along with Kul Tirans
Respect for history of the franchise. The last races from WC2 that arenât playable are Ogres, Forest Trolls and High Elves. Same reason thereâs always a push for Naga and Broken, due to the WC3 campaign.
If you donât believe me that its WC2 nostalgia, go and look at the older stuff and see how many threads post stuff deliberately inspired by the WC2 ranger unit, complete with the blue tattoos
World of Warcraftâs thing has always been letting you run around as one of those characters youâd previously controlled as an army, so of course people will want the last few options that we canât run around as at the moment
Thats not a good reason. Thats literally I want it because i want it with zero thought to story*, lore, or gameplay.
I mean, we are in a thread about, yâknow. Void Elves, who donât care about story or lore, and barely care about gameplay
HElves at least had a story niche they could fit into with a whole bunch of backstory stuff that could be drawn on. Instead we got original elf do not steal
High Elves lore and backstory is the same as Blood Elves. Void Elves are exiled Blood Elves. Blood Elves are literally High Elves. Nothing about them changed other than the dirge Kaelâ thalas renamed them to. I wasnât like on Tuesday they were all High Elves and then at 4:12pm on Wednesday they went through a dramatic change that differentiated them from what they were the day before. Getting addicted to Fel magic didnât change them to a completely new race any more than getting addicted to crack changes a human to a different race. When the Sunwell was cleansed a lot of green eyed Fel afflicted Blood Elves regained their blue eyes (both gameplay wise as a customization option, and in lore). Some got light infused yellow eyes. Literally nothing about them as a people changed other than the name.