Can We All Agree That Not All Multi-boxers Are Bad?

When I first start started, I sent countless melee to their deaths over cliffs. Or when I reached a quest area, I’d realize I had left my other character behind to be eaten by a demon.

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I box a trio.

I don’t take them to PVP.

I don’t farm herbs, I don’t mine ore.

I am not an AH grandmaster or Professional flipper.

I don’t use any bot software.

I obey the same rules as a single player.

I use my trio’s to level (if not already topped out), do WQs, sometimes run old dungeons/raids for mounts and mogs.

I typically will avoid quest areas that are already teeming, unless I can find an ally and tag/take down the same mob. I extend small courtesies like that in the hopes that the players I encounter will not see me as this huge threat that the haters make it out to be; because that’s not the way I play.

Just my two cents…

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As I have said before and I’ll say it again. Multi-boxing in on itself is just a tool. It’s neither good nor evil. It would be like saying a hammer or a car is evil. How someone chooses to utilize that tool on the other hand, that’s a different fish.

Though I support and do multi-box, there are certain things that I don’t like. But I’m not biased in my opinion either.

I would rather see people fight one on one, then go 5 on 1. I don’t care if it’s a multi-boxer or five players. BUT! I’m not going to try and spin a tale saying that one proves to be more damaging than the other. Because in my opinion, I think the end result is generally going to be the same regardless if it’s a single multi-boxer or five individual players.

Then I read the funny stories about how the multi-boxers are all about destroying the AH economy. Last time I checked, it’s a free market where people are free to list their wares at whatever price they desire. If you get undercut, OH WELL! welcome to the free market.

I could go on for more, but I think the points I made are alright for what they are trying to point out.

As I said in another post as well. There is nothing wrong with not liking something because you don’t like it. I could list off a bunch of things I don’t like, that I know other people probably do like. People don’t need to spread lies and misinformation to try and prove their point. Especially if the lies and misinformation can be called out and proven to be what they are. It doesn’t help the case at all.

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If people hack and cheat in the game, that ok with you? They like to play unfairly. Your argument is completely and utterly flawed because you presume multi-box is a legit way to play the game.

Multi-boxers are abusing the game. The ONLY reason they aren’t banned is because of the money. It’s still abusive and wrong and is used often for unfair advantages in PvP and auction house play.

It’s not right that people who cannot afford 8 subscriptions are unable to compete in the AH market…

In effect, you are using the “smoker’s argument” - that it was unfair to ban smoking from planes because some people liked to smoke (regardless if everyone else didn’t want to get second hand smoke).

Just because you like to abuse other people doesn’t make it right.

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I personally don’t view all multi-boxers as bad, but it doesn’t change the fact that whenever I see one, I jump on them as quick as possible and try to kill off as many as I can before the swarm will undoubtedly take me out.

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Didn’t Acti / Blizz recent do a rather large bot ban? Not sure if it was on here or Classic. Don’t the bot accounts generate money and they were banned?

Found what I was looking for, and it was in Classic

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I ABSOLUTELY don’t have any strong feelings either way on multiboxing.

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Multi-boxers can’t do anything an equivalent group of players can’t do. There’s no cheating or hacking.

And most functions of multi-boxing are disabled in PvP by Blizzard. I highly doubt you’re ever encountered multi-boxers there and it’s more likely bots.

As for auction house, I’ve never seen any proof the tiny number of multi-boxers impact it in any meaningful way.

Yes they most certainly can. I think you do not understand how it works. With a group of 5 toons multi-boxed you can insta kill people with coordinated, instant attacks. This is not possible even with the 5 best players in the world.

I’m guessing you just haven’t run into multi-boxers in a PvP setting. They are ridiculously overpowered.

And if you think you can get 5 to 10 people to fly around and insta click on a herb -at the same time- and achieve anywhere near the efficiency of a multi-boxer? Note that by definition you are spending 5 to 10 TIMES the manpower for the same haul. BY definition you lose this argument.

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I’m telling you almost no legitimate multi-boxers box anymore in PVP. Blizzard removed follow in pvp, and there are no work arounds. Unless they’re Alt-tabbing through windows to move each character individually, they’re not multi-boxing. Never mind trying to move from point A to B.

And there are Raid groups who fly around farming herbs just like you said. You can find them in group finder.

Oh I didn’t know, I stopped PvP after MoP when the whole system went to irrelevancy. So that’s good news! Thanks for cluing me in, glad that the abuse has been addressed at least a little. Back in those times, I faced some multi-boxers in PvP and I will -never-ever be ok with them - not ever - just scum, total privileged and abusive scum.

Now if they can just do a similar thing to herbs and mining, they could fix that abuse too.

As for herbing, that’s hilarious! One multi-boxer can out-perform that whole group of people and compete on the AH. I’d think the group doing this would be upset that the market is kept artificially low due to multi boxers. They are, in effect, having their time wasted by the multi-boxer.

Honestly, I don’t have strong feelings about herbing and mining either way. I just don’t see enough of them to think they really impact the economy. Maybe it’s different from server to server though.

Do you use keycloning like ISBoxer? If you do then you are a cheater.

If you actually tab to each client to perform each input then i have no problem with that. Keycloning is botting and thus cheating.

To those that try the usual cognitive dissonance of claiming 1x8=1 in regards to keycloning, just save it. You can tell me war is peace, and freedom is slavery, but that does not make it true. O’Brien is holding up 4 fingers.

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Hello. I would like to introduce you to Blizzard’s stance on automation.

One Action per Keystroke, per instance of WoW.

I don’t need to “claim” anything. I’m not making up the rules, Blizz already did that.

Can you show the class where Blizzard states that keybroadcasting is against the ToS?

Posts containing your feelings or others are not facts. Especially after fifteen years of special snowflakes like yourself trying to be all up in how everyone else should play the game.

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Why do you care OP? It is something that isn’t against the ToS. People just don’t like it.

I don’t like it. For me it goes against the basic idea of a MMORPG of playing with groups. You went and just made your own. So go play solo and don’t worry what everyone else is saying.

People don’t have to accept it. Just have tolerate it.

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It’s probably a good idea to give blizzard some positive feedback in case the vocal minority might be influencing them to change the policy

We could do that, but we won’t. :smirk:

Multi-boxing with up to 3 characters is fine by me because you can have 3 WoW accounts per Blizzard account but as soon as you cross into 4 I become harshly against it.

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I used to support multiboxing, if people wanted to spend 300$ a month playing this game in a weird way, why not?

After this last expansion though, I think something needs to be done about them as they’re seriously impacting the game, especially the market on trade goods.

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I didn’t read your post as feedback about multiboxing if that was your actual intent. Felt more of “Please, just accept it because not all of us do the things that cause the dislike!”

I understand that there might be who do what you say you’re doing. The others however, the consuming the mats/quest mobs out in the world, the instant gib from 1 person with the thin difference of automation, and any other negative thing a player might take issue with will always do far more harm than the neutral experience that players like you bring with multiboxing.

I agree all multiboxers are not bad. Some are just neutral like you claim to be. I don’t however agree that any are overall good for the game. Besides extra money from a sub/tokensub I see no value a person being able to fill his/her own group/raidgroup brings to a MMORPG.

Sorry to disagree with your play style, but its not against the TOS so all I have to do is tolerate it and at times like this voice my dislike for it.