Can we all admit that the Forsaken

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Is it in print?
I google searched it and came up with nada except for

To find all the books Blizzard has reprinted just search for “Blizzard Legends” and the silver border near the spine on the cover.

https://www.reddit.com/r/warcraftlore/comments/8xe1k8/are_the_older_books_still_in_print/
the OP specifically says chronicle is out of print.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=Blizzard+Legends&i=stripbooks&qid=1735804416&ref=sr_pg_1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=world+of+warcraft+chronicle

I don’t see Chronicle with the silver binding.

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Amazon has it for $28. It’s very much not out of print and still for sale

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Different bindings are common with reprints and 2nd+ editions and print runs, but even that link brings you right to a listing for Chronicle vol 1. US Amazon and B&N, the two biggest retailers, have hardcopies still available as well. It is absolutely still in print.

Additionally, Dark Horse was the published for Blizzard, and they still list it without the “Out Of Print” logo, and their links to buy copies still works.

https://www.darkhorse.com/Books/27-559/World-of-Warcraft-Chronicle-Volume-1

https://www.tfaw.com/world-of-warcraft-chronicle-volume-1-hc.html?qt=dhprofile1-27559&utm_source=darkhorse&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=darkhorse_buy&utm_term=preorder%2BWorld%2Bof%2BWarcraft%253A%2BChronicle%2BVolume%2B1

So yes, it is still in print, which means there is still a demand for it.

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And really, that makes sense. Yes, we in the Story Forum remember that quote and hold it like a knife to drag into the hearts of any appropriate argument.

But the WoW forums are super-niche, and the Story Forums are a niche of that niche. We probably don’t have enough active weekly posters to fill a Classic raid group.

Merch buying is a lot less niche than the forums. People buy merch for things they are not hyper-interested in. It’s a thing that happens. And if you have a passing curiousity about WoW’s story? Book good. If you just want something eye-catching for your WoW shelf? Book good.

So yeah, it’s gonna stay in print for a while longer. The big initial interest has faded, but interest is still there and if it follows other book trends, that interest surges whenever Amazon recommends it with the latest big book to come out.

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???
You can print five thousand copies (low balling number, I’m not in the books business) and keep those in stock until they’ve sold, right??

Danke.

I still don’t think there are many, if any people clamoring to buy old Chronicles, though.

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You could. But when companies/retailers do that, it’s usually with a warning along the lines of Limited time only or Out of print, limited stock left.

And Chronicles doesn’t have that, on any site that’s selling them.

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You would never want to do that unless we’re talking something like… Harry Potter. I’m assuming we’re talking online retailers, because even keeping ten in the back of the store is utter waste.

Books are dead weight sitting on a shelf, and shelf space is highly valuable real estate. Imagine the raw size of 5k copied of Chron. That’s an entire shelving unit just dedicated to that one book. Unless you know beyond any doubt it’s selling, that’s a lot of square footage doing nothing when, by contrast, you know Silhouette and other big romance publishers could fit probably four times as many books, and sell in a month.

Or again, dedicate that to Harry Potter. Even now, HP is going to sell (though far, far less than even five years ago and nowhere near Potter Peak), so why dedicate space like that to a video game story book?

Standard practice is before the reprint run, you reach out to the big online sellers and ask them how many they need. Those retailers are then going to order only what they expect to sell in the next six months to a year, tops, because they don’t want dead shellf space. Especially for Amazon, that space could be used by gadgets and doodads people want to buy.

So if they even have any in stock, there likely was a print run around about the release of TWW, because a new movie/TV/game release is going to drive up interest, and what we’re seeing is the last overstock of that print run.

But, uhm…

TLDR: No, you want to conserve storage space for what shall sell.

… maybe worked at an online book retailer a long while ago.

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He was wiping the floor with them until the Plague was released.

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Somehow I read this as “kinkier” instead of “kinder”. :rofl:

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He killed one orc while his army was being decimated to the point he had to intervene.

Hardly “wiping the floor”.

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I think I’ll have to pull up the Wrathgate cinematic so I’m certain I’m not just speaking falsehoods, but I think that’s Arthas’s whole deal, isn’t it? His hubris is the only thing that really beat him, in the end. The whole ICC fight is that, basically, you’re lured into a fight with him so he can kill you and then turn you into a mega-zombie.

“Something, something, led the best fighting force right into my hands”.

Wrath was such a good time. We were eating well, then. :rofl:

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I mean he would have won if we didn’t get plot armor saved by Tirion but yes that was his entire deal. And considering the constraints of the story that has to focus now on the player it was a fairly solid plot as far as villain plots go.

Anyway, as per Chronicles that little plan was already failing as far back as the Wrathgate because both factions decided to work together. That they would reach Icecrown filled with rightous fury at having swept the undead instead of miserable and battle worn so he had to act or risk getting swept up by the factions.

The idea that we, literal god killers at this point, couldn’t have beaten Arthas feels hollow. He is one of the lesser evil by comparison to things we have now killed.

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Personally I think the Zandalari were whitewashed of their atrocities to a far graver level.

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I mean, you’re not wrong. But, as we all know, that expansion was more or less hot on the heels of Warcraft 3 and he was the last, well, big/memorable baddie character from that whole saga after we beat Illidan.

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My point is the idea that somehow the Forsaken were doing us a favor by stopping the fight with Arthas and plague bombing all of us. And that it was a forgone conclusion that without the plague the battle of the Wrathgate would be a loss.

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I think I’d be completely fine with agreeing with you that the Forsaken Plague during the Wrathgate was kinda negligible.

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It was literally impossible to kill Arthas anywhere that wasn’t the Frozen Throne.*1
He was long deified by that point.*2

Citations:
*1: Uther, third dungeon beneath ICC.
*2: First issue of the official Warcraft magazine.

Edit: I like how our resident dumbo just blithely ignores that the Lich King got bored with us and instantly killed everyone. We were saved by the Light and the Ashbringer.

We had nothing to do with it.

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He was so impossible to kill that Arthas had to run away like a coward at the end of the Death knight starting experience. :smiley:

Funny you decide to reference that when Chronicles, the most recent of the lore, specially said he could have potentially been defeated at Wrathgate.

Stick and stones.

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Please don’t diss my boy fordring like that. There was a very good reason to run away.

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You can be in pain and decide to leave.
That doesn’t mean you’re in danger of dying.

Beside the point, it was clearly written before they decided (correctly) that the Lich King, the veritable god of death, shouldn’t be killable outside of specific circumstances.
lol.

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More like he was actually in danger of dying and instead of sticking around to get a faceful of Ashbringer decided to run away.

You mean from an apparition trapped in Frostmorne that wasn’t even the true Uther? For all we know that was an apparition created by the Jailer to throw us off.

Also, considering Metzen was one of the writers for Chronicles, this idea that he was somehow some immortal god and not just another evil we could kill has clearly been reversed.

Sylvanas’ short story was pretty on point:

In the grand landscape of all the world’s suffering and all the evils of the infinite, the Lich King was… insignificant.

We have even reach a point where a servant of the Void Lords even fears us. Heck, I would argue Xal’athath at her full might is likely more powerful than Arthas ever was if it was a one on one fight. The Lich King’s true power was in the infinite army he could raise, he himself as an individual was relatively weak compared to say an Old God.