1st party RMT has no place in any version of the game. I think it’s delusional to suggest otherwise. RMT period has no place in the game. But Blizzard still won’t issue real bans or clean up the botting. And it’s not like it’s hard to figure out where the bots will be in Vanilla.
Blizzard is just trying to pump up sub numbers.
It would be interesting to see those figures compared to population sites based on raiders.
I totally understand the opinion, and I don’t fully disagree, but the WoW token has been in retail for years… and was even put into classic wrath, and once it’s there it’s there.
So yeah - I’ve bought a handful of tokens on retail because I’ve started fresh multiple times over the years and never made it to endgame (usually when I return it’s on a different server or different faction, or inflation just makes whatever gold I previously had meaningless).
I definitely would not buy a token when I had a character at cap in order to participate in GDKPs.
I’m not saying this is ideal. It’s just once it’s in the game, it’s a choice that doesn’t violate ToS. It doesn’t mean I think it has any place at all on Vanilla. I’d be very upset if tokens were added to anniversary realms.
GDKP’s are fine as explained but playerbase abused it and bought gold to fund it so that’s why we aren’t getting it.
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Good chance a percentage of gold is coming from purchasing it, rather than earning it.
so if you just wanne raid and get your stuff…why do you care?
Seriously…
Yep GDKPs are the reason RMT exists.
Looks at the edgemasters selling on the AH for 4000+ gold two weeks after fresh classic launch.
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You don’t need consumes to raid.
This is true for every single thing gold is spent on, you think guys aren’t swiping to pay 300g for hoj, 200g for crusader on both weapons, and 1k on edgies?
Uhh… What? 1st party RMT isn’t linked to buying power in other versions of the game? Are you high? Did you eat paint chips as a child?
Simple.
People don’t like pay to win.
Keep that in mobile games and free to play games.
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A living example of why banning GDKP is a horrible idea. This fellow buys gold specifically for non-endgame non-GDKP purposes.
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GDKP is using in game currency for in game services. That does not fit anyone’s definition of pay to win. If RMT happens RMT gold will flow through the economy and inevitably end up in GDKPs. It’s an inevitability as long as Blizzard’s negligence continues.
Blizzard doesn’t want to deal with bots. It cuts into their profits so instead they come up with distractions for us. And the 
eating fools eat the they feed us right up.
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Sorry!
I was told since Blizzard has never officially said that RMT happens on the AH that it doesn’t happen at all.
Paying geared players to carry you through a raid and give you the loot definitely fits “pay to win”.
Not how it works in Era. And every definition I’ve ever of heard requires real money.
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So if that is not how it works why are they always looking for “buyers”?
Why do they have gold minimums before you can join?
Its all carries, this was done back in the early days where guilds would sell runs to ungeared folks since they had the content on farm.
I saw it during classic, tbc and wrath. Top guilds did this all the time. There is no difference here. Its no different than paying gold for an arena carry.
Nobody respects this kind of game play. Its sad as hell and makes the game feel trashy. I wish blizzard would just eliminate this by adding personal loot that is 100% locked to the player, no passing nothing, no trading of raid loot period, no rolling, all rnjesus.
Hopefully that will shoo the disgusting loot goblins away to something else.
Stop freaking buying gold! Player issue, not blizzard. If you are too old with too many responsibilities to play an MMO, then stop playing and move on with your life, seriously.
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The twisted logic of today’s WoW community.
Spending real money on gear = bad
Spending gold on gear = good
Spending real money on gold to spend on gear = good
RMT bad, unless you buy gold with it first, then I get my cut, so it’s good.
No that’s just you twisting words. I don’t think there has been a single person in any of the GDKP threads that has spoken in support of RMT.
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In Era the only difference between a buyer and a non-buyer is that the buyer needs gear from the raid they’re joining. That doesn’t mean they’re undergeared for the raid or they’re being carried.
I’ve never been asked how much gold I have when joining a GDKP on Era. I’ve never asked anyone how much gold they have. To be quite honest, the raids I roster I give 0 flying tauren pies how much gold you have. I care much more about if you’re geared for the raid you’re coming to and if you’re competent enough.