Probably not as long as you’d think. Gold from a single raid being run every week will generate probably around 200k gold in a year split amongst up to 40 players. Not sure what the average number of raids per week per player is but let’s say it’s 3. That’s probably around 600k gold a year. Some of that will go into repairs and consumable costs, sure. But we’re also not including gold made from other sources.
Now consider Era has been going on for 5 years. A single guild of 40 players running 3 raids a week would probably have generated 3 million gold from raid boss gold alone.
Not everyone will raid log but there is the potential for some individuals to raid log without the need for RMT. Raid loggers will just rely more on gold made from GDKPs to fund their consumable costs.
Botters inherently cause deflation, not inflation, as long as there is no gold buying. They are farming 24/7 increasing the supply of items and selling for essentially any price because for them it’s all profit.
If without botters there are 100 dreamfoils on the AH for 50s a piece.
And with botters there are 1000 dreamfoils on the AH, the increased supply will cause Deflation and cause dreamfoil to go down in price, not up.
That’s how increasing supply works in terms of affecting price, increasing supply does not cause inflation, it’s the opposite.
The issue is, as soon as those botters sell their gold profits to real players, and real players have much more gold to spend, that devalues the currency of gold.
Players buying gold with real money, allowing them to pay higher prices for any items, that is what increases prices as people have more gold to spend, and that’s the definition of inflation.
Yes bots reduce the price of certain consumes. We are in agreement there.
But they are also the main source of raw gold creation - especially as a server ages. Thus they ‘create’ most of the gold in the economy. I put ‘inflation gold’ in quotes because exactly that nuance because in convo y’all were calling big GDKP pots ‘inflation’.
Botters ALWAYS sell their gold, it is the reason they run bots. It is a business.
GDKPs players on the other hand will be happy to have multiple gold cap toons on era and just enjoy knowing they can boost / gear any alt and just hold their gold for years.
Ok, sure. But they’re not going to cause deflation. If they never sell their gold then nothing happens. And the bots don’t bot if the gold isn’t selling.
Not really, why buy gold when one can just raid for it?
The people who are incentivized to buy gold are ALL the non-gdkp raiders that need consumes, gear, etc to be successful in their raid and don’t want to farm for 20hours extra each week.
No they don’t. Most people have a very practical understanding of economics. GDKP’s are packed wall to wall with RMT addicts.
Eventually you get to a point where none of you have to buy gold, becuase there’s been so much purchased that has made the rounds in GDKP’s ad infinitum that GDKP leaders are the most impressive source of illicit gold, but it all started with bot gold.
Stop talking down to everyone. We’re know you all know what’s happening in GDKP culture.
If you can just raid for gold, just do a PUG. Everyone gets the exact same amount of gold just for raiding.
GDKP’s are completely unnecessary.
My whole point was without gold buyers massively inflating the pots of GDKP’s they aren’t worth it.
Without any gold buyers, suddenly that 50g payout you get is irrelevant, and GDKP’s won’t be run as they aren’t more profitable than simply farming gold in the game.
With gold buyers however, GDKP’s are by far the most profitable activity in the game to earn gold, vastly more profitable than any other activity by far.
If that’s the case, why would anyone do anything else in the game period? GDKP’s essentially defeat the purpose of the game because with gold buyers the reward is too great.
Hence, ban them to solve that issue.
There’s more to be done to discourage and eliminate botters and gold buyers, but banning GDKP’s is a good step to address this issue.
