I mean the squeaky wheel gets the grease, but it would still be nice to see some races other than Elves on the radar.
Lightforged are a good start. The stated intent is a good direction. But there are still a lot of blindspots that weren’t covered.
If we’re not going to get Allied Races for “subraces,” let’s expand the customization of the core races. Give us Dragonmaw Orcs, Dark Trolls, Frost Dwarves, Leper Gnomes and so on. Just glance around at the existing NPC options and see what we can switch on.
I’m happy for the High Elf crowd, but I will admit that it is disheartening to see them essentially fine-tuning their desires. I know this is anecdotal, but I know a ton of Horde players who were just turned off entirely when an Elf became Warchief. Again, I’m not going to hate on those that like Elves, but the Elvish tone certainly doesn’t appeal to everyone, particularly when many chose the Horde specifically to distance themselves from that “refined” aesthetic.
Orc players like to play dress-up, too. So do Dwarves and Gnomes and Trolls and Tauren and every other race.
Could we get a fraction of the attention that Void Elves have had since their original launch?
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So many other races need more attention.
I’m so sick and tired of hearing about void elves. J e s u s !
they will never be high elves till blizz makes it official.
Anyway… everyone deserves hair colors/jewelry/ect. Is it that complicated? I guess so…
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They’ll have High Elves in aesthetic, if not in name. Just as I would like to have Dragonmaw Orcs through customization, if I’ll never get them by name.
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Troll beards, Amani green skin, blue zanda tattoos, golden eyes
Blizz can def give us some love. I won’t be resubbing until they do
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They’re adding customization options for the allied races that barely got any in 9.0, Orcs had more customization options added then most, and you’re complaining? lol
lol what?
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Both Blood Elves and Void Elves will actually always be High Elves because thats how it works.
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Goblins are low on customization options. They should also get some love.
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I’m trying to be diplomatic. And that’s probably my key failing. Blizzard bemoans the more toxic elements of their community, yet those are the people that they actually listen to, such that the toxicity is implicitly encouraged.
I used to write long, detailed posts for feedback. In twenty years, I have never felt heard. Meanwhile, overt troll posts have the core issues acknowledged and addressed. It’s just demoralizing.
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Very much so. I would be particularly interested in getting some Deathwing-adjacent options, given their association with him over the history of the franchise.
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A dozen more shades of green isn’t transformative for Orcs.
The aesthetic and tone for Void Elves has been utterly overhauled.
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For the sake of accuracy, the Nightborne were the only elven race that needed attention, and even after this initial pass, will need further work to make complete.
The Void Elves received minor color additions and the removal of tentacles on certain hairstyles that probably took the developers 10 minutes to do.
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Aren’t Orcs, thanks to their both, hunch and straight models, the race with the most customization? And for attention, aren’t they the protagonist of the Horde like the Humans are the protagonists of the Alliance?
I’ll always support more customizations for every race, though.But if you ask me… Tauren, Nightborne and others have it more dire than Orcs.
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Orcs have the most possible cobminations of any race by a WIDE margin.
Nightborne had the absolute least, and LFD weren’t far behind. They needed more.
How did the numbers work out. Orc males had over a billion total combinations while nighborne males and females had 20k each? Something like that.
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On a technical level, quite correct. But the options that exist all play to the same fantasy and aesthetic. The posture option just lets you be a noble green savage or a primitive green savage, in terms of tone. Other than that… your character has a pretty narrow scope of the fantasy they fulfill. They are an Orgrimmar Orc of Thrall’s reformed New Horde. Dwarves might claim heritage elsewhere through customization (notably with Wildhammer options), Trolls can claim a Sandfury origins through customization, and so on, including the very limited Tauren. But Orcs are restricted to that singular aesthetic, as all their options are variations on that singular theme.
We should be able to claim more variation. The Blackrock Orcs who joined the Horde when the Dark Horde fell. The Fel Orcs that joined when we freed them from Magtheridon. The Dragonmaw Orcs that joined during Cataclysm (who have one of the few remaining named Orc leaders with Gorfax Angerfang).
If we’re not going to get Allied Races for any of these options, integrate them the same way Wildhammer and Sandfury were.
That’s been arguable ever since Garrosh was taken out. Orcs have been vilified, even by their own faction, our heroes have been killed or neutered. I don’t even know who our faction leader is right now, and I doubt Blizzard does either.
Nightbourne got a raw deal in their implementation, so I can understand them getting a little grease. Tauren, I thought, got a lot of options to make visually striking choices. But yes, they are quite limited.
I fully admit my Orc bias, because that’s where all my personal desire goes. But as you say, Tauren need more love. As do Pandaren and Gnomes and Trolls and Dwarves and all the other races that feel forgotten when you’re observing the meticulously catered changes made to Void Elves.
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If anybody can use some love, it’s the pandaren.
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Yet those “minor” additions introduced entirely new fantasies and aesthetics to the race. And when you are fully aware of some other “minor” additions that could do the same for other races - options already active with NPCs, no less - I will admit that it is frustrating seeing the Void Elves receive this level of attention relative to everyone else.
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Done with the void elves. I deleted mine because they are pretty much ruined and just copy paste blood elves now. No reason to make one anymore, I can play my blood elf on the superior faction.
I’d love to see more options for Undead, like standing upright. More options for pandas would be nice. I think on alliance gnomes really got left behind. I do agree though OP, it’s time to move on from the void elves.
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Those numbers are misleading due to the exponential manner in which they are calculated. When one additional tint of green leads to 500,000,000 more “options” in the figure, the number ceases to be meaningful.
Simply count the number of different options. It doesn’t need to be anymore complex than that, and I can assure you that Orcs will still probably be in the lead. But again, more shades of green doesn’t offer any meaningful, transformative change in the same way that adding Wildhammer tattoos to Dwarves or natural skin tones to Void Elves does.
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Absolutely true, I’m still a sad panda.
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No, because the alliance sucks so much all they can do to improve is ask for blood elf customizations
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