Can I finally say I was right about the night elf capital?

Usually I can analyze my motivations deeper than that, huh.

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It’s not really that bad through but I can kind of see why most others didn’t like it as much as the old park was. Atleast it wasn’t the cataclysm park where it was destroyed and nothing.

Despite the removal of the rest of the Night Elf refugee NPCs from Stormwind, the following Night Elf NPCs who used to live in Park are still present in either at the Docks or standing around at Lion’s Rest: Argos Nightwhisper, Maldryn, Nara Meideros, Shailiea, Sheldras Moontree, Shylamiir, Sylista, and Theridran.

These NPCs should also be moved to Amirdrassil instead of staying in a city that would rather put up a second statue of Varian than rebuild their former home in Stormwind.

Or work with me, they were simply give homes in other parts of the city?

You’d have to provide a citation.

Now that the night elf refugees have left we literally just see night elf npcs that simply work/live in the city. For example Valarian, from the trading post is just working a normal job.

If anything, there is no proof that the Alliance abused/ignored the night elves and every lore that the Alliance has been nothing but generous when the night elf were in their hour of need.

“could to tend to the hungry, exhausted, and frightened. Anduin opened the royal coffers to pay for blankets, bedding, and food, and the innkeepers—and even common citizens—had generously flung open their doors.”

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When the Park Night Elf NPCs were moved to Stormwind Harbor in Cataclysm Argos Nightwhisper had the following dialogue:

    With Stormwind’s park district destroyed by Deathwing’s pass over the city, we’re returning to Darnassus for a time.

This does not coincide with a notion that they were given other houses in Stormwind.

When Blizzard replaced The Old Barraks remains of the Park with Lion’s Rest it moved a handful of the Night Elf NPCs to stand around in Lion’s Rest, most of them tucked off in a corner of grass out of the way, and yet left the rest of the former Park Night Elf NPCs standing at the docks where they had been since the world revamp pre-patch.

Whatever hospitality Stormwind provided to the victims of the War of the Thorns has nothing to do with the questionable civil planning choice years before it.

Your opinion does not match the lore given opinion of the Night Elves from after BfA through to Thalyssra and Lor’themar’s wedding.

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I am going with everyone in Cataclysm suffered horribly, did you forget Westfall had a homeless problem for a time? But like most things, time heals most wounds and presumably like the problems in westfall housing issues were later fixed.

And funny enough, that dialog is now removed. Presumably meaning he came back to Stormwind. As he mentioned.

Warcraft has always had a problem with ingame states of affaire being “snapshots” of time as oppose to ever evolving things. So, considering night elves continue to live in Stormwind I assume it is not abusing them or neglecting them enough to leave.

Or like everything else the ingame opinions are as diverse as we have in the real world. With some people not blaming the Alliance, others feeling they didn’t do enough and a hundred others in between.

Regardless, any rift between the Alliance and night elves seem to be healing, if slowly. Hell, even their beef with the Horde might also be slowly healing.

Deagonflight gave us the Human Heritage Armor questline, which showed that homelessnes is still a problem in Westfall, and that the people of Westfall are starting building up their own representation to overcome the House of Nobles getting in the way of any relief being given to the region.

Stormwind not helping Humans in need of homes also does not coincide with the idea of the Park Night Elves being give other houses in the city.

If anything, Lion’s Rest would reflect with a House of Noble’s aesthetic tastes and disregard of the needs of the people.

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And according to Shaw, Transients come and go. So while it is still a problem, it is not as big of a problem as it was in Cata.

Which is also thanks to Anduin/help by the fact Anduin helped purged the more corrupt nobles. Stormwind is not perfect, but it is not as terrible as you pretend it to be. I would also point out if Anduin has enough money to help compensate Defias, he probably spending as much as well to help deal with homelessness isuses.

Or its simple not suitable anymore for mass scale housing project being built on it. And a place to commemorate people who died is just as important as anything else.

Its so gaudy and too much of it is dedicated to one person. I guess it makes sense because Stormwind is a monarchy and those types are obsessed with social class status.

Screams Ozymandias levels of arrogance.

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Being fair, I doubt Varian would of liked having so much space dedicated to his own (empty!) tomb. He likely would of much preferred be given a humble memorial next to his wife’s grave.

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Or people wanted to honor a person who’s literal sacrifice saved the best of the Alliance. Like without him the player character would be dead, and likely soon afterwards all of the Alliance.

On this note, I think people just wanted to honor their king so they wanted his memorial to be nice. And its not the entirety of Lion’s Rest is dedicated to him. The names of people who died during the war soround him.

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Doesn’t take away from the fact that it is gaudy and reeks of arrogance. Plus Lions Rest doesn’t even compare to the old park district that was there and one many of us have fond memories of

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They’ve been Stormwind NPCs since Classic… and besides all that grass needs proper tending.

At least you didn’t claim them standing on the grass is representative of the Lion’s Rest still being communitive with nature.

Please don’t give them any ideas :stuck_out_tongue:

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I figured that the since they had the Stormwind tag at the time, they were domesticated Night Elves which had evolved to prefer astroturf.

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Humans do have a history of taming elves. But I thought that was mostly a Windrunner thing, specific to those high elves.

But it does make sense for it to be a general elf-taming trait intrinsic to humans. They do have all that potential.

Now I need to make sure no humans get to close to me…

How is it arrogant? It is literally a war memorial honoring people who died for a cause. Yes Varian gets a special place because 1) he was the king. 2) he had a pretty big overall contribution.

Also, its no more gaudy then any memory to heroes. Also, it is kinda a Stormwind thing to make memorials for its hell. Hell, Turaylon and co have a giant statue of themselves near its entrance.