Can I do endgame in ERA without gdkp?

Im all set bud.

$25 for 5k gold. Not my fault the incentive is too strong

Because of GDKP, all forms of farming gold are a waste of time. The only reasonable way to get gold is to RMT for it, or have RMTers bid in your GDKP and take a cut of their RMT’d gold.

The most expensive herb I found was Gromsblood at 3g on Horde, the rest are half of that or less.

Assuming 2 herbs per node:
If you can do ZG in 1 hour and get 500g you would need to pick a Gromsblood every 43 seconds to get the same gold per hour.

If you can clear Naxx in 2 hours for 7,000 gold. You would need to pick a Gromsblood every 6.17 seconds. Which means you have 3.17 seconds to get to the next herb in between the collection cast time.

If you try to do this with the other herbs that are worth less than 1.5g, you would make more gold per hour in Naxx even if you were able to pick an infinitely respawning herb node for an hour with no interruptions and no travel time.

No. The problem is your will is too weak. Honestly, it’s pathetically weak if you can’t stop yourself from buying gold. You undisciplined glutton.

The price is completely irrelevant. $1 for 100,000,000g and you’re still cheating yourself out of experiencing the game, which is the entire point in playing in the first place. It’s the same thing as using “greedisgood 99999” in Warcraft 3. You’re removing the obstacles that make the game fun and rewarding in the first place.

Here’s a comparison of another form of farming:

  • Winterfall Firewater (14g).
  • ZG GDKP (1 hour), 500g.
  • Naxx GDKP (2 hours), 7000g.

Firewater has as drop rate of about 25%. This means you would need to kill 1 furbolg every 25 seconds in order to make as much gold as just running the ZG. (uninterrupted, no downtime, no waiting for respawns for 1 hour straight).
To make as much gold as running the Naxx you would need to kill 1 furbolg every 3.6 seconds.

So to answer OPs question: the answer is no. You cannot do endgame on Era without GDKP. You will need to at least run GDKP for lower tier raids in order have an reasonable return on your time. GDKP ensures that all other forms of making gold are virtually worthless because millions of RMT’d gold is funneled into GDKP raids. Thus, doing anything else with your time has very poor returns.

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If you’re as imaginative as a fruit fly then this might be true. Use your brain and you can actually figure out ways of making gold which net you as much or more than GDKP does.

Here’s a hint: it’s not firewater farming.

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Ooo… oh oh!
Is it hosting my own GDKP and taking a 4x cut so that I make more gold than if I found 4 hacked dreamfoil nodes that never despawn and herbed them all simultaneously with 4 different accounts without interruption for a total of 9,600 (480 stacks) dreamfoil per hour?

I’m sure you have something better because of your huge IQ.

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Yes. I do.

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My post isn’t about which is more efficient. I even say in the post you respond to that you’ll go to gdkps and have your gold work for you.

My post is about the first step, getting enough gold to enter into a cheaper gdkp, which can be done with simple farming. You got herbs, you got rocks, you got skins, you got fish, you got random mob drops that go for decent prices. Spiders, sillythus worms, grubs, etc.

You have many avenues of farm to make gold with, enough while even leveling to cover everything you need. I just got done doing this in era last month. Once you got this you can then gdkp after.

So no, your entire point :point_down:

Is just wrong. Your entire stance depends on every single person in a gdkp being a buyer and seller and thus every new gdkp player must automatically give in and buy gold to compete, when it’s just factually wrong.

Go be restarted some where else.

No, my entire point is included in the other half of the sentence which you cut off.

Hilariously, this is the exact strategy that you are suggesting:

But yet, the thread is about playing Era without doing GDKP and the only way you can think to make gold is buy doing GDKP. You’re right, because as the math shows, doing any kind of traditional farming or grinding will yield far lower gold per hour than doing even the cheapest GDKP.

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I am not. You don’t have to live this way. We can help.

Gold has no value on Grobbulus, and I can say with 1000% confidence there is not a single player on Grobbulus buying gold… it literally wouldn’t do anything for you even if you did! We don’t have GDKPs here. Good riddance!

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The only game, 15 years old, I know of, that ppl pay to not play. Impressive.

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Not gonna lie I would do that in an instant lmfao.

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I’ve experienced enough dme for a lifetime bud. Relax

gathering profs are for bots.

First Mongoose is a TBC enchant, which you could never get in ERA, however if your talking Crusader, it was never a 7g enchant, unless you had so many bots on the servers to make the orbs essentially free. But guess what a good way to farm gold is run Live Strat and get the orbs for free.

Either way, full enchants, full consumes, BIS gear for the raid level is extremely easy to do without having to buy gold. BTW super easy way to make gold is simply run 5 mans, and do low level raids. Also for stuff prior to naxx, often times you can simply get good enchants, not the best for blues and stuff which will soon be replaced.

How do you plan to make gold this way unless you’re doing GDKPs? One Righteous Orb is worth 1/3rd of a flask of the titans.

Also he’s talking about this:

Honestly it’s easy, though I typically primarily raid with a guild, but I mean I easily had over 2k gold just leveling my last alt. Also how do GDKPs impact running 5 mans? It’s easy to make groups and farm them for items, it should take you what 2-3 runs tops maybe a few more if you just stupid unlucky to get 2 orbs.

LOL also I was thinking the mongoose enchant, the elixirs are silly easy to get/make since herbs even with bots are easy to farm. I almost always farm my own consumes, and yes with bots it can be a bit annoying, but a lot of its farming herbs is doing it on down times, that and you can always farm other items and buy herbs.

Either way, never had to buy gold, and find it funny that people seem to think thats the only way, when gold is stupid easy to make.

… Mongoose pots?

are you new bro? Do you know anything about era? Literally the most BiS consume for melee.

Spoken like someone who doesnt consume… no wonder you think gold isnt a problem lol

Yeah as I commented above I was thinking enchants not elixirs, since I couldn’t see why anyone would possibly think herbs were hard to farm. I mean at least the enchant could take you a few 5 mans if you’re not lucky.

Because… they are? Hard to farm? ummm Duh?

Spend 2 hours in felwood… youll find 20 bots and 0 herbs.

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