Can any one "git gud"?

So, I have decided to come back to WoW and make the best of it. I am tired of standing on the sidelines. I know people don’t really care about the comings and goings. It’s either play or don’t.

But I did have a few questions. First, is the topic itself. Can anyone git gud? Part of my standing on the sidelines was I never thought I was good enough. I have always been a clicker. I know that is something I am going to have to shake if I am to realize my dreams.

I do have a multi button mouse that I am hoping I can learn to use.

But I want to play the game and have fun, don’t want to be that person everyone has to carry. Don’t want to be that reason the tank drops group. I want to pick a class and play it right.

Don’t know if I will ever be timing 20+ or raiding Mythic. Some people just are and always will be better than others. But as someone who wants to git gud, where is the best place to start? We have a new expansion coming out in a few weeks. I am excited for it. Is one expansion enough time for me to learn to competently play the game? I realize that the onus is squarely on my shoulders. I want to have fun and not tie others down. I think I will have more fun if I am playing well and then there are no hard feelings.

I suppose part will also find my own people to run with, but still even in a group of equals I don’t want people doing my work, carrying me, etc. I know what I want, just need some advice on where to start. So I thank whoever can point me in that direction.

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Yeah, sure. WoW is a pretty slow game and it’s mostly just kind of having a plan as to where you’re using stuff, coordinating with teammates, etc, rather than twitch reactions.

At the most fundamental level it’s just kind of always spitballing what could’ve been done better, and going from there.

If you want to have fun, have fun your own way and don’t let anyone troll you down.

In otherwords, git gud <3

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Sarcastic answer: No, I am still a nub.

Real answer: Yes, you can. It takes practice, and that’s ok. Do it in your own time.

I started out as a warlock, trying to melee neutral mobs with my staff, back in BC. Since then, I’ve raid led, been top class/spec on my server, etc etc.

You can do it. Go easy on yourself, and go at your own pace. Don’t listen to the “git gud scrub” idiots. Look up guies, watch videos, but mainly, have fun doing it. That’s what will keep you going. :slight_smile:

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Nobody ever started this game as an expert.

You need to put effort in to learn your class, but anyone who says that it’s impossible is either a liar or a failure.

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If one is willing to suffer the slings and arrows of learning and are mentally capable enough otherwise, yes.

find a good guild. Avoid randoms like the black death

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The "gud’ aspect varies person to person

If you consider +10 to be insane difficulty, then a +5 might be the gud’ category for you

I do aotc/15 every season and I don’t consider myself gud’ cuz those aren’t anything to brag about in my eyes

So ultimately worry about being gud’ in your own eyes before gud in the eyes of others

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Perfect timing on your part, a new expansion brings all of your possibilities.

Get started right away when the new expansion starts, jump in those dungeons when no one knows the fights. Everyone is pretty forgiving, same with the new raids. Knowing the fights will help you be that player and anticipating the incoming makes the difference. Those git gudders play that stuff over and over and over again; they get pesky later on when they assume everyone knows the fights.

Bon chance!

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When I played an online game years ago called freelancer my group was some of the best and feared pilots

When it came to recruiting we would test people without them knowing. We’d attack them relentlessly seeing how they’d react, fly with them under fake accounts and check their maturity.

Motto of that was: “we can teach anyone to fly, we can’t teach a good attitude”

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When I swapped over to a mouse w/ buttons on the side I took it easy kinda easing into most of my buttons on my mouse. You can slowly bind a few things and click less, and work your way from there

Start with maybe 1-4 and shift 1-4 and you got a solid base for most of your spells.

You can play this game however you want, there’s always going to be people who play like you do that you can group with etc…without needing to worry about being good enough while you learn

This also doesn’t matter, I personally know a player who parses 99’s and 100’s and he’s a clicker though he plays ret paladin so it’s not entirely too difficult to be a clicker.

I re-binded more keys to my mouse this time around. If not only for wow, you can also get used to mouse binds to make playing other games more immersive too.

Id say if “getting gud” is fun for you and how you want to spend your sub go for it. Just start joining guild pick up or random pugs and fail your way to the top. To improve I capture video for my own playback, in realtime it can be too fast to see my derp decisions.

Thank you for that, Sarama. I am going to try and keep a good attitude about everything and your post in particular gives me encouragement because what I have wanted to do for the longest time is tank. So that coming from a tank is nice.

I think I get what everyone is saying. I am trying to map it all out in my head. It has to start with me and it starts with doing it. Digging in and not being afraid to fall down and having the intestinal fortitude to get up and go again.

I appreciate the sentiment to get good for myself first, then worry about others. Understanding that I am never going to be good enough for some people seems like it will help.

I will also start looking for a community within the community, seems like a good plan.

Thank you all, so much. I want to do this, and I am pumped to get out there and see what I am made of.

You’ve taken the single hardest, yet most crucial step in improving: wanting to improve.

My advice is start small and work your way up.

Now is the best time to shake that nasty habit! My advice is to take it piecemeal, don’t bind every single ability right from the jump, first start with your core rotational abilities find comfy keybinds around WASD and put them there, be mindful of how big your hands actually are and try not to bind buttons that are too far away that you cannot reach easily.

As you build comfort with your rotational buttons, start sticking some utility buttons on some binds, like pet kick, fear, shadowfury, and banish. Stuff that you don’t have to use all the time, but will want be able to access quickly.

Over time you’ll begin to build more and more muscle memory and more confidence. You’ll have everything bound in no time! I currently, after counting have 56 keybinds with more on the way for dragonflight! But i didn’t start there, I started with maybe 14, and worked my way up!

Congrats on wanting to improve, the journey can seem long and arduous, but you will reap the rewards soon and there is no better feeling than being good at the game you love!

use macros that allow you to maximize the limited buttons you already use.

/cast[nomod]main attack;
/cast[mod:alt]main defense;
/case[mod:ctrl]random CD;
/cast[mod:shift]skill you use sometimes;

It allows you to had 16 buttons on just your 1-4 keys. It what helped me cut back on clicking ages ago. Now I bind all my skills (when I can) to my mousewheel and go ham.

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I was born with raw talent yeahh so nope sorry you can ‘git gud’ but you’ll never be on my level. Period.

Also, buying an mmo mouse with 15 buttons for memorized keybinds raises your skill cap.

In many ways “getting gud” sounds like a giant pita. Having said that, sitting things out and missing all the aotc is getting old and not much fun either. I really would like to be there for some of the end content. Heck to go through at least one expansion and finish it before things end and be able to say I finished the main story to this xpack, this sounds like fun to and I am going to use that goal to push myself to be better.

I’m going to disagree with some of the advice above. Truth be told, neither of us is “right”. Personally, I feel that completely committing and binding everything is the way to go. Your actionbars are still there, and in a real pinch, you can always click. But if you (really I mean me) allow yourself to rely on that, you’ll never really switch. I’ve read people who say they tried and failed until they did what previous posters said and gradually moved a few abilities at a time to keybinds and that’s what worked for them. For me, I had to go cold turkey, all at once. You do you.

Mouse turning and keybinding will be a step backwards so that you can go farther. Think of it like backing up to get a a running start. When I first switched, for about a week (I was playing about 40 hours a week back then) I was like half as good as I was clicking. You have to build the memory of where those keys are and the muscle memory of hitting them without thinking about it or looking at the keyboard. That will take more/less time just depending on the person, but it is unquestionably the superior way to play. Some people can play at a high level as a clicker (not many), but even they would be better if they learned to keybind. Plan, plan, plan. Think about those abilities you must hit fastest, like interrupts for stopping spell of doom, and make sure you can hit those keys so easy you don’t need to really think about it. Bind your most frequently hit buttons in the next easiest to reach spots.

The exact methods will vary from person to person. For some, they will use a 20 button mouse and bind actions to those. For some, almost everything is on the keyboard. My personal best has been to put all my movement on the mouse and all of my actions on the keyboard. I need 6 side buttons on my mouse. I move by holding left+right click and mouse turning. I strafe left and right with two of the side buttons. I jump and backpedal with side buttons. The only exception is auto-run is a button I hit with my thumb on my gamepad keyboard. My keyboard is actionbar keybinds only. I don’t know many, if any, people who do it the way I do. Most use three keys, like a-s-d and make those a=strafe left, s=run forward, d=strafe right and bind all of their actionbar keybinds around those three. (keyboard turning is BAD even if you’re a clicker so you should never use turn-left or turn-right on a keybind) Some will shift that over to make more room on the left and use s-d-f or d-f-g for movement.

For healing, I click-cast heals. I bind those six side buttons to mouseover heals. My dps are still keybinds on the keyboard, even when I heal.

The key is KNOWING you will be worse for a while. Start getting used to it in low pressure, like questing, training dummies, or mog farming. You will likely never feel “ready” to try it in harder content, but when easy content gets boring, it’s time to step it up. Turn up the pressure and try it in a low level dungeon. When that gets boring, try it in “current” dungeons. To really test your keybinding reflexes, try it in pvp.