Calling it Body 1 & Body 2 feels objectifying

Soooo many people fed it. Troll 1 - Everyone else 0

Kudos OP!

Get your damn “kudos” out of here, that is downright insulting with the context you’re using it for VS the reason I made this thread.

and now I’m feeding it. Troll 2 - Me 0

You responded with seconds of my post, hitting that refresh non-stop eh.

Double Kudos!!

I’m waiting on a Raid and spending time on the forums. I mean wow, you responded within a whole 30 seconds. What does that make you?

Also there is no refresh, I’m sitting on multiple tabs on the forum in queue.

and now I’m down 3 entire Troll Treats. Triple Kudos!!!

if not , oh body1 lol.

FTFY

:stuck_out_tongue:

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:woman_facepalming: What are you even talking about.

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A Dragon’s visage being an unreliable indicator of anything as sincere as the core of an individual’s identity.

A Dragon’s visage can literally be anything, even a tree:

They have shapeshifted/disguised themselves as proto Dragons even, so why is there no reveal or canonical statement by Blizzard, be it book, anywhere [Recent Artwork of Chronormu in Dragon form is too masculine to reference, so excluding this] in the game, a quest or a story like Visage Day where canonically, yes, Chronormu is no longer a male Dragon but female? Because it’s so easy to do.

Pronoun usage is not any indicator of his biology as anyone will say regarding ANY LGBTQ+ discussion. His actual biology, not his Chromie avatar, thus far has not been stated to be changed. The only thing everyone oggled about in the Visage Day story was a quick magic shift into a visage that apparently from what I know had no recording of any gnome ones prior to Chromie.

It’s an easy guess that this was why the characters were all “taught a lesson”. Even the smallest can be mighty and all that crap. Because it was after the statement of what they were amazed by that they then questioned “by the way” in why he chose a female.

Easy because it’s highly offensive if you don’t because regardless how someone defines themselves it’s always going to be by far more respectful to call them whatever they ask to be called or at least use they/them if you don’t know personal preferences.

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My experience with this forum is way too many people are unware of the singular they in grammar, and think it only refers to multiple people.

Where did Chronormu ask to be called female? In fact he didn’t ask anything of such in the Visage Day story at all, the other Dragons just randomly started using female pronouns to reference the visage. They don’t care about mortal trifles like this, they just go with whatever is in the here and now.

I’ve actually seen this and think it’s a stupid justification. When I’m called they/them I can tell just from the context of the conversation every time they were referring to me and I don’t see others being incapable of doing this either.

I mean we had pronouns that were meant for everyone like “Dude”, it used to be for men and then people just started calling everyone dudes regardless of gender or sex. Dwarves call everyone Lad and i dont think that has any specific gender / sex behind it. Apparently “They” is now offenseful too. At this point its just ridiculous. He / she / dude / lad / whatever i don’t really care. And you guys shouldn’t care either.

And for those ready to bite my head off, I wouldn’t care if someone called me a lady. Their views and opinions do not matter.

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I just have one question.

What are you a purée of?

the salty mashed potato type :smiley:

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Mmm. I love mashed potatoes, I actually need to make some sometime, I haven’t had any in 2 years and it’s absolutely atrocious.

Maybe dragons have the common courtesy to call someone her/she if they are portrayed as a female/woman so yes I can agree they don’t care what they really are, it’s not a hard concept in my opinion.

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Keyword here is portrayed, not “is”. We still don’t have anything on Chronormu’s actual biology as a Dragon.

The head writer also confirmed that Chromie goes by she/her in both mortal and dragon form as of her visage day.

Which labels of transgender aside, is a pretty clear indicator of which pronouns she uses.

Some people just choose to ignore it.

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I know and this is why I take issue with those types of people because they will go out of their way to intentionally call someone something that they know is offensive or disrespectful and it’s like why, why do you do that?

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And what’s wrong with this? I’m on the forum, not in-game. He’s a fictional character and has no feelings.

I’m not looking at a female in my head, I’m looking at the male Dragon he still is until proven otherwise. That is why I use the male pronouns. If I’m looking at Chromie, the female visage, then yes, I will use female pronouns.

And I have said why I do it.