Calia will ruin the Forsaken

[Baalsamael-turalyon (Baalsamael)]

We do know because Golden confirmed it on her twitter:

Calia was going to be Random NPC Light Undead with a highly developed model

`https://twitter.com/ChristieGolden/status/1158113979698257920?s=20

edit: so would you rather Calia be the new Forsaken Leader or Random NPC Develops Over One Expansion Dating Undead Proudmoore

[Kazthan-argent-dawn]

@Baalsamael-turalyon

would you rather Calia be the new Forsaken Leader or Random NPC Develops Over One Expansion

It’s not even so much about the fact that she is Calia. It’s a strange choice sure, it could been done. But the way they’ve chosen is… astonishing.
There were other Forsaken people and to be fair there was one undead that had development many people liked and then he was killed (not saying he should have been a leader), but it’s a example of a story better done.

[Phlynch-sentinels (Phlynch)]

@Kazthan-argent-dawn

If you don’t get what I’m trying to say, I explain it. Some people are making fun of Forasken fans with lines like: “They only like Syvlanas because she is hot.” “Only for my Queen”. Why is it different with Calia?

Because Calia actually has redeeming qualities beyond being attractive.

No one’s defending Calia actually committing genocide or openly despising her people because she hasn’t done any of that while Sylvanas very much has.

@Kazthan-argent-dawn

No one said that. She literally never helped the Forsaken before and they are healing without her. They don’t need a white zombie barbie.

If they where healing without her then they wouldn’t have sought her out explicitly because she could help them.

@Kazthan-argent-dawn

Coming from a Void elf…

You seem to think that being a void elf requires me to be edgy. I’m a high elf who happened to be present for an unfortunate incident, nothing more.

If anything I have more of a right to talk down to forsaken players who are addicted to edge because I’m proof you can suffer something terrible without it defining you for the rest of forever.

@Kazthan-argent-dawn

And you still don’t get it. The Forsaken are healing, they even formed a council. They don’t need Calia.

They formed a counsel, then said counsel was executed by Sylvanas for the crime of not needing her.

[Kazthan-argent-dawn]

@Phlynch-sentinels

Because Calia actually has redeeming qualities beyond being attractive.

I can’t see any.

@Phlynch-sentinels

No one’s defending Calia actually committing genocide or openly despising her people because she hasn’t done any of that while Sylvanas very much has.

Let’s hope we are speared such experiences. But if not we will see about that. There are always those people.

@Phlynch-sentinels

If they where healing without her then they wouldn’t have sought her out explicitly because she could help them.

That’s the thing, she really can’t.

@Phlynch-sentinels

You seem to think that being a void elf requires me to be edgy. I’m a high elf who happened to be present for an unfortunate incident, nothing more.

Uh more edge.

@Phlynch-sentinels

then said counsel was executed by Sylvanas for the crime of not needing her.

Most of them are in fact still alive.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

@Baalsamael-turalyon

Calia was going to be Random NPC Light Undead with a highly developed model

I don’t see that in the tweet. Maybe I just don’t know the layout.

[Baalsamael-turalyon (Baalsamael)]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

I don’t see that in the tweet. Maybe I just don’t know the layout.

1. Golden was asked to write a Light Undead Character in the role we see Calia
2. Golden and Taliesen proposed Calia rather than it be Random New Character
3. Blizzard realized this is a better idea, gave the green light

[Phlynch-sentinels (Phlynch)]

@Kazthan-argent-dawn

I can’t see any.

Which is truly a shame, but it says more about you than it does about her.

@Kazthan-argent-dawn

That’s the thing, she really can’t.

She has already been shown to help them. You don’t care because you don’t actually want the Forsaken to heal.

@Kazthan-argent-dawn

Most of them are in fact still alive.

1. They’re undead. They weren’t even alive before Sylvanas had them killed.

2. The only ones Sylvanas spared were the ones who turned around and went right back to groveling at her feet. Any member of the counsel that still exists lost the right to lead the Forsaken then and there.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

@Baalsamael-turalyon

• Golden was asked to write a Light Undead Character in the role we see Calia
• Golden and Taliesen proposed Calia rather than it be Random New Character

I still don’t see either of that in the tweet. Again, I’m not familiar with Twitter. Maybe you’re referencing something else. It just says she ‘pushed’ for the Calia plot. Nothing about it being a replacement for some random character.

[Kazthan-argent-dawn]

@Phlynch-sentinels

Which is truly a shame, but it says more about you than it does about her.

Everything about her is negative so far. Especially her resurrection. Go on.

@Phlynch-sentinels

She has already been shown to help them.

Nope. And they don’t need her.

@Phlynch-sentinels

The only ones Sylvanas spared were the ones who turned around and went right back to groveling at her feet. Any member of the counsel that still exists lost the right to lead the Forsaken then and there.

You said all of them are dead.

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

I still don’t see either of that in the tweet. Again, I’m not familiar with Twitter. Maybe you’re referencing something else. It just says she ‘pushed’ for the Calia plot. Nothing about it being a replacement for some random character.

Because it’s not there.

[Baalsamael-turalyon (Baalsamael)]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

It just says she ‘pushed’ for the Calia plot. Nothing about it being a replacement for some random character.

So you think half the book wouldn’t exist?

[Phlynch-sentinels (Phlynch)]

I’m done arguing in circles about this.

I’ve said my piece and the only reply you can muster is “nuh-uh”. This discussion is clearly not worth either of our times.

[Kazthan-argent-dawn]

@Phlynch-sentinels

This discussion is clearly not worth either of our times.

True. You now have your golden- white barbie. Have fun with her.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

Why would you think I would think that?
I’m just trying to figure out the source of your claims. As far as I know the plot would have been different had Calia not been involved.

[Baalsamael-turalyon (Baalsamael)]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

I’m just trying to figure out the source of your claims. As far as I know the plot would have been different had Calia not been involved.

The book is a solid third Calia dude.

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

You claimed half before.
That still doesn’t mean the plot wouldn’t have been different without her.

[Baalsamael-turalyon (Baalsamael)]

@Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord

That still doesn’t mean the plot wouldn’t have been different without her.

Given the amount of resources Calia has been given and she was put into this Undead role due to the book, press x to doubt

[Irenaus-wyrmrest-accord (Irenaus)]

Cool, just wanted to make sure this was speculation.

[Zuleika-hyjal (Zuleika)]

@Baalsamael-turalyon

Golden and Taliesen proposed Calia rather than it be Random New Character

Wait, this is the first I’ve heard of Taliesin being involved. What’s the source for that?

[Baalsamael-turalyon (Baalsamael)]

@Zuleika-hyjal

Wait, this is the first I’ve heard of Taliesin being involved. What’s the source for that?

It’s in the tweet lol he’s the one that told Golden about Calia being a Lore Mystery, also in the video from that week of his

[Zuleika-hyjal (Zuleika)]

@Baalsamael-turalyon

e’s the one that told Golden about Calia being a Lore Mystery,

But did he say he talked to Blizzard about it?