I mean. Technically she has been since Arthas died, so… She IS the Queen of Lordaeron.
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Calia is a writers or devs waifu. There’s no way she wouldn’t come in and save the day and be perfect. I just want to know which dev has a Calia body pillow, I’m just curious, really.
Well’p now that Calia is queen of the Horde, I guess I have to start saying “Light watch over you” and “Life to the living!”
Not so. There was no kingdom for her to become queen over. So, while she was a princess, she was a princess over a kingdom that was abolished, which means she’s not a queen or a princess or anything really.
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True. Mostly.
There are several traditional paths to a throne we can cite from real life history…but Azeroth isn’t real life, so only Blizzard’s writers can truly say what right (if any) Calia has to the crown of a dead nation…and that’s where your assertion has merit. Lordaeron IS dead.
However, it would be possible for her to become ‘Queen of the Darned’ (can’t say the word I actually meant, isn’t that silly?) if, and only if, the Forsaken really wanted it. That’s how Sylvanas was proclaimed ‘Queen’, after all.
Still…as I said above…this discussion is all moot. Calia sits on the Forsaken’s governing council, and until the writer’s change it, that’s all the power she has for now.
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He was the king and spoke for his house. Think of the most infamous leader you can in history. Do you think the people from that country would want to be ruled by that person’s sibling, even if they didn’t do anything wrong themselves?
After brushing up on my Calia lore (because I was going off memory and I wanted to check something), it seems like there might be a heir to the Lordaeron throne if the kingdom was ever reestablished.
Queen Linne did tell her daughter that after Arthas had the crown and produced a male child that they would acknowledge her child and make it an heir. Maybe even make her husband a noble.
But saying they would make the child legit in the future if certain conditions are met proves the child is not legit now (which also means Calia isn’t) and will never be made legit since the people that would have done that are dead and gone (Arthas and their parents.)
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Well technically she would be a queen. After all she is the daughter of the previous king of Lordearon and the only member of that bloodline correct?
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No. She’s not a legitimate heir. She married a commoner.
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That doesn’t mean anything…
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ROFL it means every thing.
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A queen of what? Her lands were destroyed, her people milled*, her castle razed. Her people later came back and then founded a new kingdom.
So, she’s not a queen or a princess, because her kingdom literally doesn’t exist any more.
This doesn’t mean that the Forsaken can’t proclaim that she’s a queen, or that she can’t take that title by force, but she isn’t a legitimate queen.
EDIT: killed, not milled. But milled sounds cooler so it’s staying.
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No she’s the Sister of the previous king who destroyed said Kingdom and rose the people of it into Undeath to serve the scourge.
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Here’s the thing. I don’t think they would. Because she’s Arthas’ sister. Same reason people keep voting for former presidents’ sons to be presidents too IRL, only the forsaken hate Arthas with their whole being, and wouldn’t want to be associated with people related to him.
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Calia Menethil renounced any claim she had to any throne in a quest in game so that has to be some kind of mistake.
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The funny thing is, this doesn’t even matter. She was stripped of her title before this happened because she got married and had a kid with a commoner.
Before her mother died, she told Calia that they would legitimize her child only if Arthas produced a male child. And that means that when the king, queen and Arthas died, Calia was not part of the line anymore because if she still was, then there would be no reason to legitimize her child.
Edit - then there is this:
Which goes back to my theory that whomever wrote that quest text is drunk.
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Actually, I prefer for Lordaeron to have a queen as opposed to a group of rulers.
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Or channeling serious “Calia, please notice me!” energy.
I actually agree with this. I like the idea of one leader. I don’t like that it might be Calia, but they can fix her with introducing literally any flaws in her character and then making her evil… that’s all I ask, really.
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They are probably referring to her in an honorary title manner. Not that she is actually the queen of the Fosaken but acknowledging that she is the last remaining member of the previous ruling blood line.
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Is it Horde/Forsaken speaking to her or is it Alliance/Worgen people speaking about her? If it’s Horde/Forsaken, it doesn’t make sense… if it’s Alliance/Worgen, then it makes more sense, as they might be showing respect to a fallen kingdom and the Menethils.
I think if that was the case it would be said by an NPC or be a title under her name, honorary or otherwise.
In this case, it is only seen in quest instructions, not even in the quest dialogue from Calia or any other NPC. At least none that I’ve noticed.
At the end of the day it is what it is but I think it’s just an oversight. It does seem to me more and more that these days anything goes as far as lore and I don’t think a lot of the employees are Warcraft fans like how it used to be. But that’s just my opinion.