Calia is Queen now apparently

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This is a statement I fully agree with. But again who knows with how funky Red Dragon Fire is in this universe, it could possibly work? But I still wonder if we’ll find out later he isn’t actually the REAL Derek.

The backstory of her being a Menethil. Her struggles as she hiding, her seperation from her children, her turn to the Priesthood in order to help whomever she can.

Also her just urge to help her people, and the fear that her name, and if she should be a sole leader, it would just be another doom for her people.

Like she genuinely states she doesn’t want to be a sole ruler, she just wants to be part of a council of people making their lives easier, as she feels guilty for the actions of her brother.

Like Before the Storm was awesome for how it portrayed her. But in the game they crap on her, it’s sad really.

Yeah, they should at the very least give her some stay awhile and listens that talk about her life, or even just copy paste things out of the books for the player base to get to see at large.

Because it’s abysmal what players who only play the game get to see of her.

Tell me oh wise and supreme Inemia. What experience and books do you have, about how Oaths work from beyond the grave?

Because the only thing we have about Oaths, comes from IRL and how people act about them. The Rangers take their oaths almost religiously. So the text and the data we can extrapolate is that they followed the oath in death. Which is also something that the lore mentions.

^^ literally what you said, which implies you are saying it’s not cannon. You can’t hide behind falsehoods of saying “other players don’t believe” when you didn’t preface it earlier when you said it.

What does being Autistic have to do with anything? Never did you mention you were autistic, and never did I accuse you of being autistic.

As someone who was almost denied from grade school because of MY autism. Your weird defense of saying “I have autism, it’s not cool to point out that I’m being dumb” is beyond offensive, belittling and very anti-autism friendly of you.

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it’s the source of necromancy, so if its not using death magics or one of its subsidiaries, then the subject isn’t undead, they are something else, alive, animated, whatever. “undead” assumes necromancy is in play and necromancy is clearly in the realm of death on the chart.

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Because they were being hidden from everyone. The family would have been legitmate unless she was disowned by her father. She and her mother feared that would be the result so they hide them to keep it from happening. Knowing that once Arthas was the King, they could be brought out of hiding.

Just a simple observation to end this once for all. If she had stepped down or been disowned, why was she hiding the family at all? There would have been no reason for them to be hiding (with the queen’s help) is Southshore and not living with Calia.

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Sylvanas was Alliance long before she was horde (same reason people say Dark Iron belong with the dwarves)

Sylvanas was so Alliance she drove the Horde out of the Ghostlands…

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Exactly. There’s a horde spike with her name on it.

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First, that counts fo all blood elves and dark rangers. Times change.
Second, you need to refresh your lore. Quel’thalas didn’t want to join the alliance to begin with, and left as soon as possible. Gilneas did the same.

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Oh well at least the Forsaken can rest assured that their leaders experience with things going south is “run away and hide for a decade”.

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oaths taken in life end upon death.

no, i said the players don’t accept it, i didn’t say it wasn’t written.

thats you making fun of autistic people.

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ok they didnt want to join and left shortly after.

Thats still much better than went to war against to drive out people trying to invade and kill us

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It is canon that Lordaeron belongs to the forsaken people. Your whole “lordaeron belongs to calia” thing is a fever dream. You are literally arguing against canon lore with your own weird fan fiction.

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Proof? Show me an example of a single person who came back in undeath IRL who stopped following thier Oath?

Otherwise you’re telling lies to suit your own headcannon. When official lore supports what I’ve said on the matter.

Saying “REEE” is not making fun of autistic people. You thinking it does however, is very Anti-Autism and Autism awareness.

So go touch grass.

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Property rights end upon death.

Forsaken get NOTHING

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this is simply wrong.
the Drust use life magic and yet are explicitly undead, the direct opposite force to death magic.
Calia being raised into undeath by the light is no different.
canon states that “necromancy is necromancy, you perceive a difference where there is none”

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the Forsaken are Lordaeron.

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lmao what? They are all there, it’s their land. If you think you have some kind of gotcha, Calia is dead too. So the only person you’re arguing with is yourself.

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they were - until they died.

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Yeah, you know, like the alliance. The kalimdor horde and the eastern kingdoms+nightborne horde are together because it’s better than being alone. Nightborne are in the horde cause BEs are in it, and BEs are in it cause the forsaken are in it, and the forsaken are in it cause the alliance wanted to kill them.

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not dead anymore lol, they’re something better now

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The land belongs to the living - the Scarlet Crusade

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Hey alright

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