Oh the quest is different for the Alliance! Calia recognizes us as Genn’s spies?!
That changes everything.
She’s a Dreadlord.
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I’m not a particularly hopeful person but I’m not a pessimist or nihilist either. All great things start with a step in the right direction. Recognizing when one is made isn’t optimism it’s just observation.
Velanora( Misspelt I know) knew who we were the entire time too. She admits it in the final quest.
This… is concerning tbh…
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How so? 
If she was truely for the Forsaken she would have outed us as spies.
They are playing a long game here, and I don’t trust them. They are splitting the narrative again.
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You do have a valid point there. I actually didn’t even consider why she didn’t out us until you mention it just now
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This may yet still end with Lillians daggers in her back. I don’t like this one bit.
This explain’s Lillian’s response to, do you trust Calia? “I haven’t decided yet. But I’ve got my eye on her.”
I knew it was too good to be true.
Stay vigilant Lillian.
I’m with Belmont on this.
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It really isn’t.
What I think they’re doing is what I’ve begged them to do. Return Azeroth to it’s Vanilla status quo where the faction conflict is a Cold War with flashpoints.
I have a pet theory people remember Wrath as fondly as they do because this was the last expansion where this was the case, until the end.
I don’t actually remember Wrath fondly at all. Death Knights were completely broken in PvP to a frankly unacceptable degree, most of the zones were incredibly boring compared to the surreal masterpiece that was Outland and the Forsaken to this date have never been shafted harder. Arthas was their villain. It was their head to claim. And they weren’t even a part of ICC. Unforgivable and them following it up with Edge of Night - well were Blizzard a physical entity that handed me that I would’ve been jailed for assault and battery.
Seriously people act like they started disrespecting the Forsaken recently. Uh, no I think Tuesday was the first time they actually learned how to respect them.
But from Wrath onward of the past 6 expansions 3 of them have had the faction conflict as a main narrative plot thread.
It made sense on paper. Let’s put the war back in Warcraft as they say. Trouble is it’s not a war. Wars have efforts. And the storylines are inherently passive things. Uncontacted tribesmen in the Amazon and I had the exact same effect on if the Horde or Alliance won the War of Thorns. The same cannot be said for any BG or WPVP encounter I’ve ever had.
I accept PvE is basically a rail shooter where the bad guys can’t win. PvP on the otherhand is all about player agency and a game winning move can be in your hands. Making the PvP gameplay a PvE story was a catastrophically terrible idea. I hope they learned from that mistake, fix it, and never touch it again…
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Blizzard has a sincere issue with actions not meeting conversations.
Lilian says she doesn’t know if she trusts Calia, but her actions show her as Calia’s number 1 fan and basically the Egore to Calia’s Dr. Frankenstein.
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I still get chills when I hear the Howling Fjord music.
Not just because it is beautiful, but I experience that first arrival in my mind every time I hear the nickelharpe start. Making your way through the fjord. Everything about that intro to the expansionbwas amazing.
Thats just my take.
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ya know this morning I was like “nah Dreadmoore can’t be right about the Alliance PoV.” but yeah I think you are right. it’s suspicious and it’s creating another cognative dissonance among Horde players. We think Calia is a Forsaken, but the Alliance still see her as a secret ally. This is awful news.
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It should be confined to AV like bgs
Almost nothing has topped walking through the Dark Portal and finding yourself on the otherside next to a gate 5x it’s size in the middle of a pitched battle between the nations of Azeroth and the Legion.
You hastily fly to safety and do your quests in Hellfire and go
“Okay so this is basically a hellish wasteland. Got it”.
Then you step into Zangarmarsh and learn Outland’s wonders never cease.
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My artistic side hated it. The palette was so garish, and the gear was worse. But storywise… sure.
Zangarmash was really somethin’ I get nostalgic for it sometimes.
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Cmon. The floating mountains if Nagrand. The dragons stuck through the aptly named Bladespire Mountains ruled by cyclops. The crumbling wastes of Netherstorm.
Shadowmoon and Terrokar were…also there. But hey they can’t all be mind blowing. You need the mundane to offset it.
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No… no no. Those were much nicer. Just the initial introduction in hellfire.
Oh it could’ve been boring. But they made it interesting with it’s residents.
If you ever want to wake up a veteran WoW player just pop that. Immediately spikes their heart beat.
wait, does Velonara recognize you as all Alliance? or does she recognize hunter’s as a special dialogue option because you were in the same Order Hall?
I’m trying to remember when Velonara had any encounters with Alliance players in a positive way.