Hello guys
I’m back to playing World of Warcraft. On a Thinkpad with an i5 7th gen and Intel UHD 620!
I want to build a pc which will be cheap in the long run and upgradable on a budget.
Need everything, there’s no pc to upgrade. Never done it before. Another limitation is that I moved to the Philippines a while back and will be located here for the foreseeable future. When the prices is listed in Pesos, it means they were cheaper on the door in the Philippines!
The purpose of this PC is WoW in 1080p at a decent fps.
The CPU GPU bottleneck calculator shows 66.8% CPU utilization while 100% GPU utilization. I’m reading that in WoW the CPU is more important so it is perhaps not as bad as it looks.
The upgrade path. I was hoping the GPU could last this expansion and the CPU, RAM and Motherboard would last a few more. Could always add another 16GB RAM and possibly a R7 5800 before having to replace motherboard. Then have a WoW pc for many years.
I don’t mind being at 1080p at 60fps on nice/decent graphics (not max) for now with the occasional dip due to big pulls or lots of effects or when I’m camping an overcrowded capital. Probably won’t raid Mythic, but I’d love to get into M+.
Yeah would be great. The cheapest I find here is about 400$ or 300$ on amazon with 100$ plus in shipping and import fee. Do you think the 580 would make the gaming experience poor?
yeah a 580 should be good. maybe a UPS depending on how reliable your electricity is. on another thread a guy toasted his pc because of the unreliable power
Raptor Lake probably won’t be able to compete with Ryzen 7000X3D. The current 5800X3D is already faster than any other CPU for WoW. Raptor Lake might not even beat the current 5800X3D.
At that point a 5600X is similar perf and mobo is cheaper.
BTW new Intel CPUs are not looking too great right now per leaks. Assuming AMD doesn’t bungle the X3D 7K series get ready for a performance blood bath. Price is still in the air for both.
Power consumption of a 12400F and CPU price of a 5600 non-X will be the same (5600 and 5600X will be same perf for WoW).
The older AM4 boards are cheaper than LGA 1700 mobos. Low end boards aren’t optimized for overclocking so the VRMs won’t be great. AM4 lets you upgrade to a X3D while LGA 1700 has nothing equivalent for WoW.
Eh… here’s what the review says:
...we have concluded that the Core i5-13400 is essentially a non-overclockable i5-12600K...
If it were me? I’d buy a cheaper 450 motherboard. Cheap AM4 Boards are fine, just make sure you have enough USBs.
I’d drop down to a 5500 CPU. It’ll be good enough.
Drop to the cheapest name brand 650 watt PSU you can find. You’ll be hitting 300-350 watts max. You won’t need a 750 watt and you can save by going with semi-modular. You are going to be using all the power cables anyways right? Full modular is extra $$$.
Get a cheaper case. This rig isn’t going to need a wacky cooling set-up. Stock cooler and 2-3 case fans will be fine.
That should save you about $150-200. If you bargain hunt for SSD’s and Ram you can shave off even more.
Use that savings to buy a better GPU like a 6500 or a 3050. You’re only going to be running 1080 so bottlenecking won’t be an issue. Or, split the savings, look for a 2070 or 5700 and move up to a 27 inch monitor.
I’d rather run a 5500 and a 3050 than a 5600 and an RX580. I agree that the 40 or spent on the 5600 is worth it, however in any budget build I always recommend getting the best GPU possible. In this case, with a budget of 750, you need to cut costs to get a better GPU. It’s only for WOW and 1080, the CPU isn’t going to be a major factor.
It does matter. I got unstable 5900X, crappy BIOS even after gazillion of updates, USB dropouts (still did not get fixed on 7000 series) and it runs hotter on idle. Also crashed a few times with default BIOS settings and stock XMP. 7000 series? enjoy the absurd boot times and random reboots. So yeah, thats AMD quality.
Swapped to 12900K and all the problems are gone. So, I will not bet on AMD giving no issue builds.
