Buff Marks Hunter

Hey Blizzard and fellow hunters,

I’m ßurning from Faerlina-US, currently the #3 ranked Marksman Hunter in Mogu’shan Vaults. I’ve pushed this spec to its ceiling, and I’m here to show not just tell why Marks needs a buff.

Blizzard has stated that class balance is a priority in Season of Discovery and MoP Classic. But if Marks is “balanced,” then the numbers must be lying because they paint a very different picture.

Let’s compare my parses to Shaonná, the #3 ranked Survival Hunter from Gehennas-EU. Same rank, same raid tier, same difficulty. The difference? Survival is miles ahead.

:bar_chart: DPS Comparison: Marks vs Survival (Rank 3)

Boss Marks (ßurning) Survival (Shaonná) Difference
Stone Guard 97,646.8 159,440.1 +61,793.3
Feng the Accursed 92,554.7 106,430.3 +13,875.6
Gara’jal the Spiritbinder 100,679.3 122,607.5 +21,928.2
Spirit Kings 77,959.9 97,288.2 +19,328.3
Elegon 101,282.4 137,111.5 +35,829.1
Will of the Emperor 77,643.8 83,868.3 +6,224.5

:magnifying_glass_tilted_left: Total DPS Gap Across All Bosses:

+159,979.0 in favor of Survival.

This isn’t a gear issue. This isn’t a skill issue. This is a tuning issue. I’ve optimized every aspect of my Marks build, and I’m still trailing by six figures in total damage.

If Blizzard were to buff Aimed Shot by 20% and Chimera Shot by 15%, it would significantly close the DPS gap between Marksman and Survival Hunters—especially in single-target encounters where Marks is supposed to shine but currently lags far behind.

Let’s run a rough estimate using your current top parses:

:wrench: Hypothetical Impact of Buffs

Boss Current DPS Estimated DPS After Buffs Survival DPS New Gap
Stone Guard 97,646.8 ~117,000–122,000 159,440.1 ~37K–42K
Feng the Accursed 92,554.7 ~110,000 106,430.3 Marks leads
Gara’jal the Spiritbinder 100,679.3 ~118,000 122,607.5 ~4K
Spirit Kings 77,959.9 ~93,000 97,288.2 ~4K
Elegon 101,282.4 ~120,000 137,111.5 ~17K
Will of the Emperor 77,643.8 ~93,000 83,868.3 Marks leads

:abacus: Total DPS Gap After Buffs:

Reduced from +159,979 to ~+60,000 or less, depending on encounter mechanics and uptime.

:brain: Why These Buffs Make Sense:

  • Aimed Shot is the signature hard-hitting ability of Marks, but it currently doesn’t scale well with gear or crit. A 20% buff restores its identity as a powerful nuke.
  • Chimera Shot is central to the rotation and utility. A 15% buff boosts Marks’ sustained damage without breaking burst windows.
  • These changes would allow Marks to compete on single-target fights and hold its own in AoE, without overtaking Survival’s strengths.

:warning: Alternative: Nerf Survival

If Blizzard prefers not to buff Marks directly, they could:

  • Reduce Explosive Shot damage by 10–15%
  • Tone down Serpent Sting scaling
  • Limit passive synergy from talents like Lock and Load

But frankly, buffing Marks is the cleaner fix. It preserves spec diversity and avoids punishing Survival players who enjoy their playstyle.

Now before people come in crying about Hunter T14 2pc will make it crazy!

Boss Current DPS Estimated DPS After Buffs Survival DPS New Gap
Stone Guard 97,646.8 ~125,000–130,000 159,440.1 ~29K–34K
Feng the Accursed 92,554.7 ~115,000 106,430.3 Marks leads
Gara’jal the Spiritbinder 100,679.3 ~125,000 122,607.5 Marks leads
Spirit Kings 77,959.9 ~95,000 97,288.2 ~2K
Elegon 101,282.4 ~125,000 137,111.5 ~12K
Will of the Emperor 77,643.8 ~95,000 83,868.3 Marks leads

Its not crazy to ask for these changes!

sounds like the easy fix for MM is to just go Survival since it is already a top spec.

That’s exactly the problem.

When one spec is so overtuned that the “easy fix” is to abandon another entirely, that’s not balance it’s design failure. Marks isn’t just slightly behind. It’s trailing by 160,000 DPS across the board.

I’m the #3 ranked Marks Hunter in the world, and I’ve squeezed every ounce of performance out of this spec. The result? Still miles behind Survival even on fights where Marks is supposed to excel.

If Blizzard wants spec diversity and meaningful choice, then

isn’t a solution. It’s an indictment of their tuning.

We’re not asking for Marks to be broken. We’re asking for it to be viable. If you think that’s unreasonable, you’re not arguing for balance you’re arguing for stagnation.

there are really really weird numbers, survival #1 on feng is 106k? it says the #1 marks is 121k and and the number 1 surv is 135k

106k isn’t even in the top 200

Well if you read the post I was comparing #3 since I’m no longer #1 after all the logs have been done!

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