Bring back PvP servers. Put the war back in warcraft

No I understood what you posted.

And that is why you are a valuable member of the WoW community.

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Yes, hence faction imbalance. Can’t have good wpvp if the realm you are on is lets say 90% Alliance.

This isn’t for you if you enjoy war mode. This a PvP server discussion, nice try.

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Your opinion of a pve toggle for pvp on a pve server claiming to be the same as a pvp server is irrelevant to the fact you don’t have to play on a pvp server.

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Warmode: PvP server experience.
Warmode off: PvE server experience.

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It’s not the same thing. Have you literally not been reading anything we have been talking about?

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If warmode isn’t a pvp server experience, then what is it?

It is the same thing, minus your ability to grief people indefinitely. If that’s a dealbreaker for you, good.

Not exactly. Picture one like a combat zone, and the other not. You don’t have a choice once you’re in the combat zone. People want to kill you. You can’t just put your gun down and hope for the best. Same principle applies on a PvP server.

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As has been said over and over, it’s just /pvp on a pve server, with some side bennies for leveling.

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A full server open to all out war like it was back in the day. That’s a PvP server.

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Agreed.

The premier world PVP server that was Emerald Dream and role play too!

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Exactly the same thing. If you have Warmode on, you are flagged and every other person is flagged, just like a PvP server.

Warmode doesn’t change that.

You also can’t harass, hunt and grief someone until either they turn off their warmode, or you’re cornered by them and a friend and turn it off yourself to escape consequences.

The only example of “wpvp” you have given us was an entire guild ganking 1 person for 2 weeks.

Nope. Turn on WarMode. If you claim there isn’t enough, then there isn’t enough to warrant a pvp server that’s only ever gonna be used by rare farmers.

Considering that they don’t have the war mode achievements for this expansion, I’m quite confident that’s what they were there for.

Sounds to me like a few boomers want to relive the glory days of classic PvP when realms had actual communities before sharding. That’s literally the only difference between war mode and PvP servers, is the communities.

I guess you can ask for it. But at the end of the day for blizzard to implement something there has to be demand for it. I would guess the number of players actually interested in an old school PvP server would be close to none.

The wow player base has grown older and evolved.

Except it isn’t. Warmode is complete garbage. Whenever I go into war mode there are so few people in the world it’s completely empty. When I had PvP servers I had tons of people who were always IN that world INTERACTING with that world. Now 98% of the server is on PvE only and I have absolutely nowhere to go for meaningful world PvP because you cried you were somehow stuck on a PvP realm which you voluntarily made a character on and got upset you got ganked.

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Because as it turns out, most people don’t like world PvP. Shocking I know.