Nice anecdote. At what point did I say you would be forced to use ML? Please point to it. You clearly dislike it. That’s fine. Use PL. I won’t stop you. I would like to use ML knowing full well that what happened to you, could also happen for me.
What? You mean you selecting the game mode you’d like to play on and me selecting the mode I’d like to play?
The numbers are in. There were plenty of guilds that used PL at the end of Legion, even in Mythic.
If your stance is so ubiquitous as you would have me believe, you should also have zero issue building your own PL guild. If everyone wants PL, and it’s just the evil guild masters forcing ML… Then take control of your own fate and build your own PL guild. If you’re right, then people should be signing up by the bucket load.
Have never been on the LC or been the LM in a progression guild. Try again.
That’s not how strawman works because you’re now strawmanning my argument.
Say for example I’m not in a raiding guild.
I look through the group finder and join a listing i see. Majority is from the same guild. They have mastetlooter on and are only looking for warm bodies. They do not disclose loot rules in the description. Drama ensues and people get kicked or don’t know how the ML wants to distribute it.
This is more a case of me playing devils advocate, I don’t know how much of the decision to remove ML was done in the spirit of “fairness” versus trying to cut down on the QQ.
That’s why almost everyone who’s advocating its return back to guilds is arguing for even stricter rules on it. I’d like it back with a 100% guildie requirement for it to be utilized in a raid. In other words if there’s any pugs… PL is enforced.
There’s over 1400 posts in this thread. I’m not gonna go searching or go to 3rd parties for this. Let’s just say I trust you, but didn’t know you were Horde or different main.